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Post by Doug Mathieson on Jul 31, 2018 19:56:27 GMT -5
Its getting close to the AAA registration deadline and I will be updating the Allan Cup Eligible teams as I get them At the moment only Alberta is confirmed with all teams returning this season www.allancup.ca/SeniorAAATeams18-19.htm
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Post by southoftheborder on Aug 5, 2018 7:23:46 GMT -5
Any definitive word on if Newfoundland (Clarenville Caribous) will be participating this year in qualifying? I know there is a new set up being worked out in the province to try to save senior hockey in most of the province.
At this rate have Elsipogtog play the Allan Cup Hockey champions in a two of three series for a spot in the tournament to save somebody on travel expenses and cut it to four teams as no team from Quebec again and no BC entry against Alberta for Pacific spot.
Host team Alberta Champ Rathgaber Cup winner Eastern winner
You get the same number of games as you already have so no need to to make major changes to the schedule if you have 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 semifinals and a consolation game. All you would do is move one of the games that would be Friday to Saturday (from a semifinal to a consolation game). It would also get the crowd worked up prior to a nationally televised game. If the consolation game runs long have a five minute overtime and then shootout.
or do the Memorial Cup format and cut down on the number of playoff games by dropping one quarterfinal and one semifinal game.
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Post by Doug Mathieson on Aug 5, 2018 16:13:15 GMT -5
Assuming no Quebec or BC then the Host branch would normally get Quebecs spot but this would result in 3 of the 4 Alberta teams getting into the Cup It would even be worse if Rosetown was the Sask/Man rep as you would have 4 of the 5 Alberta ACHW teams in the Cup
The logical move would be to give Quebecs spot to Sask eliminating the need for the Rathgaber Cup and tournament would consist of Host Alberta Champ Sask Manitoba Ontario and Atlantic
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Post by Doug Mathieson on Aug 5, 2018 19:08:41 GMT -5
Any definitive word on if Newfoundland (Clarenville Caribous) will be participating this year in qualifying? I know there is a new set up being worked out in the province to try to save senior hockey in most of the province. At this rate have Elsipogtog play the Allan Cup Hockey champions in a two of three series for a spot in the tournament to save somebody on travel expenses and cut it to four teams as no team from Quebec again and no BC entry against Alberta for Pacific spot.
Host team Alberta Champ Rathgaber Cup winner Eastern winner You get the same number of games as you already have so no need to to make major changes to the schedule if you have 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 semifinals and a consolation game. All you would do is move one of the games that would be Friday to Saturday (from a semifinal to a consolation game). It would also get the crowd worked up prior to a nationally televised game. If the consolation game runs long have a five minute overtime and then shootout.
or do the Memorial Cup format and cut down on the number of playoff games by dropping one quarterfinal and one semifinal game.
Are you suggesting that Ontario should playoff against Atlantic for the Eastern Spot
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Post by southoftheborder on Aug 6, 2018 4:01:05 GMT -5
Sort of. Cut it down to one team traveling out west this year. The number of team's for this year is looking a little on the low side. You really can't justify having a six team tournament with only 7 teams confirmed for Senior AAA this year so far and at most five more being maybes to playing Senior AAA at this point. Eleven teams play Senior AA last year and not one stepped up with a pretty much well guaranteed trip to the Allan Cup. The Kelowna Sparta organization had said they would step up to Senior AAA if they won the Coy Cup last year, they lost the final (albeit by six goals).
I could go either way with a four or six team format. The time invested and the travel costs would be just as much for the teams and player either way if you add one more round of qualifying.
Hopefully, with a few Quebec teams possibly being in the mix within the next few years the numbers will go up.
Could the way Newfoundland and New Brunswick pick their representative be a model for some other league's to give them a year to do fundraising and be financially prepared for an investment in a try at the Allan Cup?
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Post by Doug Mathieson on Aug 7, 2018 1:48:59 GMT -5
I believe the format is locked for this year I believe but if they had wanted to make the change this year to 4 teams tournament then you would not be asking Ontario who play three series to play Atlantic More logical to give Ontario Quebecs spot and Sask and Manitoba playoff
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Post by southoftheborder on Aug 7, 2018 4:36:16 GMT -5
I believe the format is locked for this year I believe but if they had wanted to make the change this year to 4 teams tournament then you would not be asking Ontario who play three series to play Atlantic More logical to give Ontario Quebecs spot and Sask and Manitoba playoff The ACH champion is likely to only play two rounds, but I was thinking more so travel money wise. I think the Ontario champion would deserve a spot just by playing in a league for the whole season. But then again travel from Atlantic Canada is expensive to any place and almost guaranteed to go through Toronto or Montreal.
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Post by Doug Mathieson on Aug 7, 2018 22:58:27 GMT -5
Still waiting to get the official list of AAA teams from Hockey Canada
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Post by jimc on Aug 9, 2018 14:48:54 GMT -5
ya..have the ON champ play 3 rounds of playoffs to qualify...no thaks...and what if N ON wanted to challenge? that would make it 4.
Enough already
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Post by southoftheborder on Aug 9, 2018 17:15:43 GMT -5
Just an idea since it was out west...I wasn't sold on it.
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Post by naitch on Aug 10, 2018 7:53:51 GMT -5
It's time for the Allan Cup champ to be determined between Ontario and Alberta...enough is enough. I would include Quebec if they ever got back into the fold thru league play and qualification.
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Post by jimc on Aug 10, 2018 10:00:19 GMT -5
localized tournaments or playdowns to determine an East v West championship series...like in the good old days...would be great...and I do think it is gaining some traction.
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Post by southoftheborder on Aug 10, 2018 18:08:00 GMT -5
It's time for the Allan Cup champ to be determined between Ontario and Alberta...enough is enough. I would include Quebec if they ever got back into the fold thru league play and qualification. You might be close to it this year. Possibly 3 or even 4 ACHW teams and the ACH champion qualifying for the tournament.
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Post by Doug Mathieson on Aug 10, 2018 22:49:12 GMT -5
localized tournaments or playdowns to determine an East v West championship series...like in the good old days...would be great...and I do think it is gaining some traction. Dont forget in the good old days the one year they had to win their league, then play Sault St Marie to win Ontario, then you got to play a powerhouse in Quebec like the Victoriaville Tigers and then finally Newfoundland to win Eastern Canada After all that if you win in the wrong year you have all games in the Best of 7 on the road Now it could be interesting if next year you have a Quebec team and a Ottawa District team
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Post by southoftheborder on Aug 28, 2018 10:06:15 GMT -5
Any word on what the delay is for confirmation on some of the other areas (Is it Hockey Canada with the list or teams committing to qualifying)? province of Manitoba, Atlantic region and Stoney Creek. Stoney Creek has been quiet on social media with only two post from the OHA meetings being recognized for provincial and Allan Cup championships and no word on upcoming season.
I know Newfoundland is still figuring out what they are doing for league play; never mind committing to Allan Cup qualifying. New Brunswick was supposed to host last year. Does that mean Newfoundland would host this year or do they still owe New Brunswick hosting duties for qualifying?
Elsipogtog had their golf fundraiser and nothing else is mentioned on team facebook page.
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