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Post by wade on Jun 1, 2019 10:29:33 GMT -5
I don’t get the sense The Army were very happy about the decision to continue with a tournament format, after Rosetown 2018.
They led the charge from the AB branch, pushing to at least TRY a series format. Word is, they were 100% WILLING to pass up the chance to HOST a tournament in 2019.
But...ultimately...another 2 years of piecing together this tournaments with barely any REAL interest at all.
I’d say a lot of the things I’ve said before...but...I’ve said it all so often....
I definitely support The Army when they say...”There is no point in carrying this thing any further.”
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Post by Scooter on Jun 12, 2019 10:34:16 GMT -5
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Post by Don Robertson on Jun 16, 2019 19:32:04 GMT -5
Whitby Dunlop’s are fine and will compete in 2019/20. Lots to talk about but not today but we need an Esat West series whish I knew how to bring my post”s from over 10 years ago with me pushing this. Hockey Canada need to let people who care/stakeholders fix this, as I’m convinced they have no interest. Don Robertson
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Post by Scooter on Jun 17, 2019 8:31:19 GMT -5
Whitby Dunlop’s are fine and will compete in 2019/20. Lots to talk about but not today but we need an Esat West series whish I knew how to bring my post”s from over 10 years ago with me pushing this. Hockey Canada need to let people who care/stakeholders fix this, as I’m convinced they have no interest. Don Robertson Whitby Dunlops revived by promise of players to chip in off the ice
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Post by southoftheborder on Jun 17, 2019 11:17:58 GMT -5
Whitby Dunlop’s are fine and will compete in 2019/20. Lots to talk about but not today but we need an Esat West series whish I knew how to bring my post”s from over 10 years ago with me pushing this. Hockey Canada need to let people who care/stakeholders fix this, as I’m convinced they have no interest. Don Robertson Whitby Dunlops revived by promise of players to chip in off the iceThey haven't paid attention to senior hockey in years.
Unfortunately, in this day and age a East-West final may even be tough to pull off.
If you group Pacific and Western (along with Thunder Bay) as the Western Region and Atlantic, Quebec and Ontario (less Thunder Bay) as the Eastern Region you run into a time off from work issue for some of the teams.
BC/AB and SK/MB/TB as semifinal and final rounds out west
ON/PQ/Atlantic (plus possibly Eastern and Northern Ontario) with at least a two round playoff in the east
Unless you go to three-team round robins to do it in one weekend to cut down on the travel.
Granted there aren't that many teams to worry about it now but if they got things straightened out it may be possible for some teams to attempt to qualify without much of an outlay of money. There are enough lower level teams in Alberta, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Newfoundland, Ontario, Quebec, and Saskatchewan to make a single stream qualifying a possibility.
Saskatchewan has five levels of provincial senior playoffs Senior AAA and four other levels based on town populations held separate of league playoffs.
The working of an East-West system may help save senior hockey, but the logistics of getting it to work looks like another challenge all together.
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Post by naitch on Jun 19, 2019 8:35:09 GMT -5
Whitby Dunlop’s are fine and will compete in 2019/20. Lots to talk about but not today but we need an Esat West series whish I knew how to bring my post”s from over 10 years ago with me pushing this. Hockey Canada need to let people who care/stakeholders fix this, as I’m convinced they have no interest. If Hockey Canada have no interest...they then do not provide any value. Maybe it is time for Senior AAA hockey to break away-become an "outlaw" league? Is this even a possibility? Don Robertson
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Post by naitch on Jun 19, 2019 8:36:19 GMT -5
If Hockey Canada have no interest...they then do not provide any value. Maybe it is time for Senior AAA hockey to break away-become an "outlaw" organization? Is this even a possibility?
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Post by wade on Jun 22, 2019 17:12:43 GMT -5
If Hockey Canada have no interest...they then do not provide any value. Maybe it is time for Senior AAA hockey to break away-become an "outlaw" organization? Is this even a possibility? It’s somewhat possible. But as soon as you start looking into insurance costs it gets instantly tough to move out from under Hockey Canada’s umbrella. The outlaw league in Southern Ontario operates within a large & established athletic commission. To find an entity similar to that...but...with an inter-provincial capacity would be very tough.
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Post by IceMan_M on Jun 27, 2019 9:20:37 GMT -5
Let’s just expand the LNAH nationally and call it quits. Haha
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Post by southoftheborder on Jun 27, 2019 15:14:56 GMT -5
Let’s just expand the LNAH nationally and call it quits. Haha The Greater Metro junior league is already trying that this year.
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Post by wade on Jun 27, 2019 17:59:41 GMT -5
Let’s just expand the LNAH nationally and call it quits. Haha Actually, that’s a brain storm that does have some merit & potential.
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Post by IceMan_M on Jun 27, 2019 18:31:25 GMT -5
Let’s just expand the LNAH nationally and call it quits. Haha Actually, that’s a brain storm that does have some merit & potential. I was actually semi serious. Only slightly buzzed when I suggested it. The hockey has gotten a lot better and it’s not under HC. Be cool to see LNAH East and West Div. With maybe one or two out of division games. Just throwing it out there.
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Post by wade on Jun 27, 2019 23:52:51 GMT -5
Actually, that’s a brain storm that does have some merit & potential. I was actually semi serious. Only slightly buzzed when I suggested it. The hockey has gotten a lot better and it’s not under HC. Be cool to see LNAH East and West Div. With maybe one or two out of division games. Just throwing it out there. To start, I DO think looking at the LNAH model & considering how to create a Western Canadian version of that league has merit. The Allan Cup, in its essence, can’t survive in the modern era. But...it CAN springboard something.
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Post by southoftheborder on Jun 29, 2019 7:48:50 GMT -5
Who actually makes up the senior board of Hockey Canada? Could the members of Allan Cup Hockey and some of the other Senior leagues that are sanctioned by Hockey Canada take over the senior board in an attempt to try to right the ship and delay the trip to the scrapheap? Don't the senior board members have to get re-elected every few years? Running against them should be fairly easy as they have done next to nothing, and some people who show they care about the game at the senior level should be able to get elected.The senior level is on the decline in much of Canada granted, but ignoring the senior level entirely is not good for the game as a whole in Canada. Traditions in hockey are special (if not sacred) such as teams shaking hands at the end of a playoff series. The Allan Cup is so entrenched in the history of the game as the holder representing Canada at the World Championship prior to the formation of the Canadian National Team as conceived by Fr. David Bauer in the 1960's.
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Post by southoftheborder on Jun 30, 2019 10:57:54 GMT -5
I would presume at this point: Atlantic Newfoundland, PEI, and Nova Scotia are likely out for this year New Brunswick: St. Quentin Castors and Tracadie Alpines won the two senior leagues in province so one may register at Senior AAA and free pass to Allan Cup (conjecture, I haven't heard anything)
Quebec (East) possibly Mont-Laurier Montagnards from Outaoais Senior Hockey League as they won regular season and playoff championships and spot in Allan Cup (again conjecture, I haven't heard anything)
Ontario (Central) OHA five entries (2 automatic spots) Northern and Northwestern/Ontario: may be possibility of Kenora returning (and yet again conjecture, I haven't heard anything)...would likely be guaranteed a spot in Allan Cup or at worst have to play an ACH team for a spot
West Saskatchewan doubtful for any entries Manitoba possibly 3 entries (returnees from last year)
Pacific Alberta two entries BC doubtful will have any entries
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