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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 17:10:12 GMT -5
So, what's the deal, Doug? Who repaired the Clarenville roster?
Nobody is saying anything on the NEWFOUNDLAND board. It's eery. Lol.
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Post by mlh01 on Apr 7, 2015 18:01:07 GMT -5
Yes I also go on the Nfld board. One of the most lively boards in all of hockey. The Newfoundlanders love their hockey.
But, yes eerily quiet. Todd (Caribous Insider) is usually very informative and doesn't shy away from posting.
I've checked many times over the last few days - not a word....
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Post by mlh01 on Apr 7, 2015 20:21:29 GMT -5
Another update - there are rumours on the Newfoundland website that Hockey Newfoundland has confirmed that Grand Falls Windsor have 9 "imports" listed on their roster and Clarenville have 8. HNL rules allow for 6 imports per team.
With the 2 Quebec players now looking to be ruled ineligible, Clarenville is at the 6 player limit.
Question is (if I'm interpreting correctly - and forgive me but I just read it a few minutes ago)....will Grand Falls be mandated by their own association to use only 6 imports in the tournament?
My guess is "no" because the Allan Cup does not have an import rule as far as I know.
But, it seems to be getting messy out East.
More to follow...
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 20:28:30 GMT -5
Just informed by a good source that HNL confirmed that as per the description of an Import which is a first year branch to branch player into a leaque, and includes players from NL who went away to play MJHL or elsewhere . According to this based on the player list as submitted by both the Bous and Cats by the Feb 10th deadline, the Cats had 9 on there list which they had/have to select 6 from and the Bous had 8 on their list which they had to select 6 from and assuming the 2 Quebec Players are out they have 6 left. Cats imports as defined by Hockey Canada are Wicks, Dalley, Circelli, Tremblay, Day, Okeefe, Magnun, Pender and Morrisson of which to select there 6 from and Bous have Savage, Martin, Denny, Lee, Macrae and Stephanison. Also was told that the reason given for the Quebec Players not being eligible was that they play in a Leaque where Players are paid for services and issued T4 slips . Doesn't this make both NL teams Bous and Cats ineligible also as all there players are paid and are issued T4 slips. ? Or is this just to much of a touchy subject so close to the tournament date, but I would be crying wolf if I was disqualified for the reason listed when there is 50 0ther guys playing under the same terms . I would suspect that based on the fact that Clarenville wants to be good Hosts, they are willing to let the issue die. I hope both NL teams do well and the Cats come out on top .
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 20:30:35 GMT -5
Above post is copy & pasted from the NFLD board.
It appears there is some confusion regarding Hockey Canada's Import Rule...again.
I know MOST of this rule(s) verbatim & will address it following tonight's NHL game.
Thank You, gentlemen.
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Post by The Goon on Apr 7, 2015 20:40:45 GMT -5
Thank you Wade you do very good work.
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Post by catsfan200 on Apr 7, 2015 20:42:29 GMT -5
The Cataracts only got 6.... if you go look at Point Streak Roster.....3 other players aren't being used and were only posted from Affiliate Draft list that they could use for Allan Cup.....
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 20:54:06 GMT -5
Imports" means the designated status assigned to a Player who has obtained a transfer from one HC Branch to another (Inter-Branch Transfer) from a foreign Ice Hockey Federation to HA (US/International
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 20:59:56 GMT -5
Senior Teams will be permitted to register Imports only to the extent that the total number of such active Imports does not exceed at any one time during the current Hockey Season a total of six (6) imported Players.
(b) Senior Teams are permitted to register among their Imports a maximum of one (1) non-North American player in the current Hockey Season. Such Players retain their Import status when registering with HA or HC for subsequent Hockey Seasons.
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 21:11:21 GMT -5
So, If there are MORE than 6 "active imports" on a SR AAA 28 man roster, the roster is non-compliant.
I'm not clear as to the process for altering a non-compliant roster.
What SHOULD HAPPEN: Because all Inter-Branch transfers are, upon approval, dated & documented...the initial 6 should be detected upon investigation and ALL later dated "Import Players" SHOULD BE deemed to be ineligible.
No SR AAA team should ever be permitted permission to "hand pick" the Active Imports they wish to retain when altering a non-compliant roster.
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 21:15:10 GMT -5
Should also add: There SHOULD BE some suspensions & fines forthcoming IF there were ANY non-compliant game sheets filled out/games played.
Coaches & Managers are in jeopardy of sitting the rest of the season IF it's found there were illegal players in sanctioned games.
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Post by newfiecat on Apr 7, 2015 21:41:04 GMT -5
Above post is copy & pasted from the NFLD board. It appears there is some confusion regarding Hockey Canada's Import Rule...again. I know MOST of this rule(s) verbatim & will address it following tonight's NHL game. Thank You, gentlemen. If this is the case..and i don't know if it is..but if it is...Dalley played last season...So that would leave...wicks...Day..O'keefe and Circelli and possibly Tremblay....so the Cataracts would be in compliance.
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2015 21:57:42 GMT -5
I think it's also extremely important to know & understand these Import Rules also apply to game sheets.
Consider: A SR AAA team can, technically, have access to MORE than 6 "Active Imports" via the list of Affiliate Players (who are NOT considered to be part of the SR AAA 28 man roster).
Example: A game sheet could feature 5 "Active Imports" from the 28 man roster and 2 "Affiliate Players" who are (also) "Active Imports" from the affiliate team roster.
The above situation would be NON-COMPLIANT as its in exceeding of the maximum amount of ACTIVE IMPORTS.
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Post by Senior Hockey Vet on Apr 7, 2015 22:09:58 GMT -5
Mlh01 - you seem to always be in the loop with Senior hockey. Thanks for breaking this story. Also, great ideas by the way for a two tiered league. Been thinking about that and it's likely exactly what Senior hockey needs in Ontario. And wade, same as mlh01, you also are in the loop (although with a little more combativeness to your posts). Thanks for explaining the rule to the best of your knowledge. Look forward to more from both of you.
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Post by newfiecat on Apr 8, 2015 7:30:35 GMT -5
Question Wade, if a player is from Newfoundland and played Junior A in another province and returns after there jr. career is over, are they considered one of the branch to branch transers?
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