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Post by dontcallitsenior on Nov 8, 2023 13:05:35 GMT -5
Brampton is in with new personnel in charge. The schedule is finalized with the first games Nov 16-18 weekend. I hear it is 18 games per team. Well, it's not entirely new personnel. The owner brought in new blood to pay the bills he owed. The main guy is still majority owner and pulling the strings. He fancies himself some sort of mogul building his "empire" (that's a quote). Sadly for the players, I don't see the marriage lasting the full season. Ouch. Didn't see Sr AAA as a part of any 'empire' haha
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Post by ou812 on Nov 11, 2023 9:24:31 GMT -5
Well, it's not entirely new personnel. The owner brought in new blood to pay the bills he owed. The main guy is still majority owner and pulling the strings. He fancies himself some sort of mogul building his "empire" (that's a quote). Sadly for the players, I don't see the marriage lasting the full season. Ouch. Didn't see Sr AAA as a part of any 'empire' haha I guess with the prices he is charging to watch the games, he is well on his way to that "empire".... these prices are insane, IMHO. Tickets were $10 last season! That's a fair price for this team. Yet, the place was still a cavern. I guess he thinks he can sell seats by section but when 99% of the seats will be empty, is beyond me how he can fathom these prices. From the team web site... SINGLE GAME TICKETS General Tickets ( $15-25) Youth & Seniors ( $10-15) VIP Tickets ( $40- 55)
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Post by IceMan_M on Nov 11, 2023 17:47:06 GMT -5
You can get NHL tickets for close to $55 in Canadian markets if it’s not a marquee matchup….
I still feel if you make it $5 and $5 beers, you’re gonna draw a crowd. I heard Cremona did a $10 ticket and a free beer for their home opener last year. That’s one way to bring in a crew
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Post by outwest95 on Nov 14, 2023 18:50:53 GMT -5
$10 for adults and $5 for 12-17. Under 12 is free. That’s pretty universally accepted at any level of senior hockey. It’s the matchups for me that brings in the crowd.
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Post by catsfan200 on Nov 19, 2023 22:06:14 GMT -5
Ya in the CWSHL in Newfoundland it’s $10 adults… $5 dollars for ages 6-12 and for 5 and under its free
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Post by ou812 on Nov 23, 2023 8:03:44 GMT -5
It seems Stoney Creek (formerly Hamilton) is doing similar pricing to Brampton. The grifter on the Buccs is known to use this team as his benchmark for operations.
SC are charging $15 for adults. $10 for students and seniors and under 10 yrs old is free. Also offering $25 tix for "premium" seating. Season tix are $12 a game.
Still a bit much. Teams need to draw a crowd by making it affordable to other options. I am not spending $30 for two to see a shit show like Brampton. They are a bunch of goons.
Tix should be $10 max.
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Post by sprintcars on Nov 28, 2023 12:36:24 GMT -5
With tickets that high you won’t get near the crowd if it was priced right A couple of teams that will be folding sooner than later Keep killing senior hockey
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Post by outwest95 on Dec 12, 2023 1:19:21 GMT -5
I don’t think you can blame specific teams. I know I’m the past in here I have said things regarding teams and such, however I don’t think they are solely to blame for what’s happened in the past 3-5 years.
There are so many factors that go into running an operation of the magnitude that teams do. It just takes one area to slump or suffer and it could affect the roster or financials. So for me what ruins it is the negativity that keeps getting thrown around regarding it, this causing people to stay away. Usually this negativity stems from an untruthful post that gets spread or a simple rumour. Gotta look for the good and keep pushing that out, however that’s just my opinion.
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Post by ou812 on Jan 1, 2024 23:34:30 GMT -5
Why has Brampton's Instagram name changed 4 times over the holidays?
The main one is gone and the last one has been changed to Allancuphockey. Brampton post history is still there, but the last two are league related.
Has the League taken over the Brampton franchise? Are they in trouble again?
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Post by ou812 on Jan 8, 2024 14:20:11 GMT -5
So it looks like the league has indeed taken over BB old Instagram, as the last few posts have been league related only(despite keeping all the old Buccaneers posts up and visible.
That said... they have a new coach (last year coach is back, which is odd in itself since he left last season because they didn't pay him owed money). Plus... the co-owners (who are also players) have not played the last few games. Could be a nothing coincidence or something is going down and makes you go "hmmm" 🤔
Is this a coincidence that co-owners not playing and original coach is gone or is there fire brewing with that smokescreen?
Anyone know details?
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Post by ou812 on Jan 28, 2024 10:31:22 GMT -5
Further to my post above...
It seems the two co-owners on Brampton are now playing on a low end team in the WOSHL (which I believe is unsanctioned) plus a couple of other players too. Brampton roster list is huge, so suspect they were using ineligible players again (even the coach is listed as playing one game so far). BTW surprised he came back.
I don't have confirmation of ownership falling out, but this is a bad look for the ACH. They give Brampton a second chance, due to the money owed last season and to keep it at 4 teams, only to have the team being more of an on-ice embarrassment than last year.
ACH in Ontario needs to stop being an old boys club. So long as it remains under OHA jurisdiction, it will never again grow to levels of the past. It's a "hobby" for the team owners and probably business tax right offs. Teams are full of owner buddies and friends, rather than actually building proper teams and make it a destination that over 20s will want to play in and that will grow the league.
Allan Cup Hockey in Ontario has become a joke, while the other unsanctioned leagues will continue to grow.
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Post by outwest95 on Jan 28, 2024 20:42:03 GMT -5
Respectfully, this is not the place to be posting these negative comments. ACH has done lots to bring back a national championship after years of decline. Sure does a 4 team league look better then a 3 team? Absolutley! So yes the league would do whatever it could to keep this. That would apply to any other league coast to coast.
This old boys club is just a ludicrous and ridiculous statement to make. Fact of the matter is the leagues, again, whoever and wherever they are, will take the necessary steps to protect its teams and image. Full stop. Whatever the issues with members may be.
Again, respectfully, we all acknowledge your comment and respect your opinion, however there is a time and place. This is not, in my opinion, the forum to slander a team or league in what I view as a personal vendetta. If there is an issue, address it accordingly with the appropriate representative. Figure out the wording in a way that does not mitigate or slander what people are trying to do and then post up here in a way that is engaging and can in some form create some kind of positive image of hockey at the AAA level.
We need to build it up and not continue to tear it down otherwise yeah it’ll just continue to be the same people over and over with no growth.
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Post by ou812 on Jan 29, 2024 10:41:32 GMT -5
Thanks for your reply. I also respect your opinion.
Sometimes information is hard to hear when the curtain is pulled back a little, and this forum is a good avenue to share, especially for those not close to it. Otherwise it just starts and stops with those who are in charge. It's difficult to see a league side with its members for financial reasons (Which I get its in their interest do so), rather than protect and support the players affected by it and who ultimately are the ones responsible for the success or failure of the league, not the efforts of those behind closed doors.
Just look at the trail of teams gone and/or moved over the last several years (yes I know pandemic hurt it), but change is hard, especially when it is needed and you see the cycle repeating once again.
I want the league to thrive, not just survive.
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Post by ranul on Jan 31, 2024 11:46:43 GMT -5
What effect would it have if the Ontario Hockey League team Steelheads were moving to Brampton?
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Post by ou812 on Jan 31, 2024 12:36:23 GMT -5
What effect would it have if the Ontario Hockey League team Steelheads were moving to Brampton? Good question! ... IMHO... Hockey in Brampton has failed over and over. Minor hockey in Brampton has seen massive declines in past years (I'm told at one time their minor hockey system was the largest in North America!) Steelheads attendance has been declining too. Too much option for sports entertainment in the GTA. The move to Brampton is mainly because their arena lease is not being renewed and CAA doesn't have a stable main tenant. There is a bigger story here regarding the owners of Paramount arena too. I see the move killing (or moving) the Buccs because multiple teams competing for the same dollars, usually one or both will fail (historically and recently in Btown). The buccs ownership will probably try to affiliate with Steelheads somehow, so hopefully they will do their diligence and not go anywhere near this guy. Last season the buccs owed money for ice. I cannot see CAA wanting both teams to share the big bowl. I could be wrong, as paid ice is paid ice. That said, I hear two of the 4 co-owners/player/coaches had a falling out with the majority owner... so he will need to find more "investors". Word on the street is a the ACH will have a new team next season well north of Toronto. I hear Acton, Orangeville or even Barrie?? If BB folds, ACH will still be just 4 teams if new comes in.... unless that old bid from Caledon Crusaders resurfaces (was supposed to happen pre-pandemic) or some other team comes ... but I don't hear anything of that nature. Anyone with $ in pocket will be welcomed... but the on ice product really needs to be better than what Brampton has iced the first 2 seasons In summary... IMHO the team is doomed unless they get some quality hockey people involved.
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