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Oct 12, 2011 7:58:35 GMT -5
Post by naitch on Oct 12, 2011 7:58:35 GMT -5
Went to the Blast home opener against the Dunlops last Friday nite...here are a few observations:
-player coach Hamm giving himself a regular shift and especially time on the PK is a liability at best. He needs to understand his role which is simple...he should be touching the ice if someone is taking liberties with 1 of the Blast players. Other than that, his butt should be glued to the bench coaching...or whatever you want to call it -Blast group of D men is pretty solid & mobile...many times they were the initiators of any offence the Blast were able to come up with- -Blast forwards Kitchen, Smith are average beer league players at best...they have no right being in the league. Spurr, Healy look old & tired...team owner Ham will need to open the wallet to address the forward situation...very, very weak & will struggle all season to put goals in the net unless he does something -impressed with the new kid Easter...constant motor and is not afraid to go into the tough spots of the ice to battle...not a bad set of hands as well -Whitby is solid yet again...PP is crazy deadly & made the Blast pay...McKellar reminds me of Jooris...you have to account for him in the offensive zone at all times...smart hockey sense
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Oct 12, 2011 10:53:01 GMT -5
Post by Curtis on Oct 12, 2011 10:53:01 GMT -5
Every team needs a 'hamm' to handle people taking liberties but we all know too well that once they do they will probably be gone for some unaccountable amount of games which would mean no coaching either for Hamm.
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Oct 19, 2011 0:17:32 GMT -5
Post by hockeypops on Oct 19, 2011 0:17:32 GMT -5
It seems I may be a "Johny Come Lately" to the AAA Senior Mens "Amature" Hockey, so I don't quite know what you mean when you say "Hamm will need to open up the wallet to address his front end situation". Could you elaborate on this so as to better enlighten me?
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Oct 19, 2011 7:43:02 GMT -5
Post by naitch on Oct 19, 2011 7:43:02 GMT -5
It seems I may be a "Johny Come Lately" to the AAA Senior Mens "Amature" Hockey, so I don't quite know what you mean when you say "Hamm will need to open up the wallet to address his front end situation". Could you elaborate on this so as to better enlighten me? I stated Ham (Peter Ham, owner/GM of the Blast) not Hamm (player/coach) will need to open his wallet...in otherwords, spend some $$$ (pay players) to get some quality forwards on the team. You can include a keeper as well on that shopping list as Leggat, Dickie or Thomas are not the answer.
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Oct 21, 2011 6:45:24 GMT -5
Post by hockeypops on Oct 21, 2011 6:45:24 GMT -5
It seems I may be a "Johny Come Lately" to the AAA Senior Mens "Amature" Hockey, so I don't quite know what you mean when you say "Hamm will need to open up the wallet to address his front end situation". Could you elaborate on this so as to better enlighten me? I stated Ham (Peter Ham, owner/GM of the Blast) not Hamm (player/coach) will need to open his wallet...in otherwords, spend some $$$ (pay players) to get some quality forwards on the team. You can include a keeper as well on that shopping list as Leggat, Dickie or Thomas are not the answer. Interesting concept - pay amature players. Of course your suggestion might fly in the face of Senior Mens Hockey rules that state no player shall be paid to play. Interesting to know the Blast have a payroll. Wonder how long they would be around if that got out? I seem to recall Horse Lake in Alberta getting a 3 or 4 year suspension and just this past year I believe Pentincton got an indefinite suspension for that very thing. On the other hand I have reliable information about teams that have recruited well, without playing in the money pit. It was explained to me that it is definitely more difficult but from what I've seen, certainly doable. I have no doubt many players in Canada in Senior Mens may receive compensation outside of acceptable guidlines but each team caught usually pays a price. And is Leggatt really that bad between the pipes?? Didn't he just come back this summer from a National Inline Hockey Championship in Europe or where ever, having won a medal representing Canada?
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Oct 21, 2011 7:55:53 GMT -5
Post by naitch on Oct 21, 2011 7:55:53 GMT -5
Hockeypops...payment of players has been a hot topic of debate for many years in this forum. You can do a search & see all the discussions that have happened. The bottom line is that there are many teams who pay players to pay...pros & cons on both sides for sure. I don't see this changing any time soon. Re: Leggatt...in my opinion, he is not the keeper who will get you to the Allan. The quality of keeper at the Allan Cup level is a step above his ability at this point of his playing career. Dundas knew this & let him go in a trade with the Blast i believe. I stated Ham (Peter Ham, owner/GM of the Blast) not Hamm (player/coach) will need to open his wallet...in otherwords, spend some $$$ (pay players) to get some quality forwards on the team. You can include a keeper as well on that shopping list as Leggat, Dickie or Thomas are not the answer. Interesting concept - pay amature players. Of course your suggestion might fly in the face of Senior Mens Hockey rules that state no player shall be paid to play. Interesting to know the Blast have a payroll. Wonder how long they would be around if that got out? I seem to recall Horse Lake in Alberta getting a 3 or 4 year suspension and just this past year I believe Pentincton got an indefinite suspension for that very thing. On the other hand I have reliable information about teams that have recruited well, without playing in the money pit. It was explained to me that it is definitely more difficult but from what I've seen, certainly doable. I have no doubt many players in Canada in Senior Mens may receive compensation outside of acceptable guidlines but each team caught usually pays a price. And is Leggatt really that bad between the pipes?? Didn't he just come back this summer from a National Inline Hockey Championship in Europe or where ever, having won a medal representing Canada?
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Oct 21, 2011 17:57:38 GMT -5
Post by wade on Oct 21, 2011 17:57:38 GMT -5
Brantford has history with this. They were open with me about how things were put together in 2008 and they were succesful with it. On the other hand...they ran dry and took a LOA shortly after winning the Cup. Its a fine line. You want core players who commit for all the right reasons...but...you also require talent. Pure $$$ into the pockets of ANY player is poor fiscal management, poor team building and..literally...illegal at this level. I believe most (if not all) SR AAA teams understand this. Its common cents. But there is always a desperate situation or an excpetion to the rule.
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Oct 21, 2011 22:59:48 GMT -5
Post by burger on Oct 21, 2011 22:59:48 GMT -5
blast looked good tonight, legget with some key saves, and in the shoot out, spurr controlled alot of the play, Dundas has some new players that look good as well, too early to tell for either team
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Oct 22, 2011 2:52:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2011 2:52:12 GMT -5
hamm is a real piece of work , ? will he make it til Christmas
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Oct 22, 2011 6:36:49 GMT -5
Post by charlie on Oct 22, 2011 6:36:49 GMT -5
maund must have had a prety good nite if shots were right on gamesheet 91 to 43.. what the, is that right?
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Oct 22, 2011 10:22:28 GMT -5
Post by iceechips on Oct 22, 2011 10:22:28 GMT -5
Legget gets 3rd star last night and Maund from DUNDAS makes 84 stops and does't even get a sniff who ever is picking these stars of the game in that shit house in Brantford should stop being so bias in there picks.Hamm the coach should put a suit on he is a disgrace to the league and to the blast he can't fight anymore as he took the brunt of it in the fight with Lawson.
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Oct 24, 2011 8:01:26 GMT -5
Post by naitch on Oct 24, 2011 8:01:26 GMT -5
Legget gets 3rd star last night and Maund from DUNDAS makes 84 stops and does't even get a sniff who ever is picking these stars of the game in that shit house in Brantford should stop being so bias in there picks.Hamm the coach should put a suit on he is a disgrace to the league and to the blast he can't fight anymore as he took the brunt of it in the fight with Lawson. The shot tally was way off. Who ever was keeping track at the civic center deserves a slap upside the head. No doubt the Blast out-shot Dundas but the final tally was ridiculous. As for your comment about the civic center being a "shithouse"...yes, it is a little dated now but it is still a great place to watch a game. Your comment wreaks of being a Dundas fan...i think the only thing a Dundas native hates more than a Brantfordian is when someone refers to Dundas as Ancaster.
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Oct 24, 2011 8:05:08 GMT -5
Post by naitch on Oct 24, 2011 8:05:08 GMT -5
Brantford has history with this. They were open with me about how things were put together in 2008 and they were succesful with it. On the other hand...they ran dry and took a LOA shortly after winning the Cup. Its a fine line. You want core players who commit for all the right reasons...but...you also require talent. Pure $$$ into the pockets of ANY player is poor fiscal management, poor team building and..literally...illegal at this level. I believe most (if not all) SR AAA teams understand this. Its common cents. But there is always a desperate situation or an excpetion to the rule. True Wade. Re: the Blast when they hosted the Allan...what really left "crusties" at the bottom of the mug was a half full arena during the whole Allan. If they were open with you as you state, then you know they were banking on full capacity for at least all the Blast games. That simply did not happen.
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Oct 24, 2011 11:12:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2011 11:12:58 GMT -5
the ice in the civic center, is not much better than it was.even with the new new ice plant, looks like the city got screwed
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Oct 24, 2011 13:56:31 GMT -5
Post by jimc on Oct 24, 2011 13:56:31 GMT -5
Hockeypops...The MLH (now ACH??? come on, that's just lame) has long allowed compensation of players at a $25/win $5/loss formula..However, the only team I can guarantee that ever played by it, or less than, was the Petrolia Squires. Every other team has, to some degree, compensated players. Most teams simply pay cash, but others are more creative with perks like golf memberships, etc. Almost everyone pays for composite sticks, skates, etc, which have real value.
There have been a number of ugly incidents in ON where shitstorms have erupted over player compensation, and players have been ruled ineligible, etc...real petty, nasty stuff. The OHA was complicit in all of it, and has left a black mark on the league and the association.
I suspect teams pay less for players than they used to, but yes, Brantford spent a huge amount of money in hosting and winning their Allan Cup bid. now that they are back in, I would not be surprised to see the stakes rise again this year.
many (most) Sr AAA teams compensate their players...despite the mock protestations of some of their most ardent supporters on this board. I, personally, have no problem with it, bu the double standard that exists over what is OK for your team vs anyone else is just laughable.
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