ranul
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Post by ranul on Jan 7, 2019 23:44:24 GMT -5
what do you think the format of the Allan cup should be
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Post by southoftheborder on Jan 9, 2019 8:09:58 GMT -5
How about this for a national senior playoff format
BC vs AB and SK vs MB with winners meeting for Western championship (each series best-of-three one team host all three games over one weekend)
The Atlantic provinces (provincial reps. playing in a round robin or a best-of-three (or two best-of-threes if all provinces participate)
Atlantic vs Quebec vs Ontario (round robin in one location with a championship game, with the furthest traveling team off the first day).
Western vs Eastern champion best of five (2 games one weekend in one rink, remaining three in other rink following weekend).
This schedule would seem to cut down on amount of time players would need off from work.
You could also change to the best of three is one region is not represented in the East and to a round robin if one province is not represented in the West.
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Post by HockeyFan123 on Jan 10, 2019 12:27:21 GMT -5
This event has regional qualifiers to decide who goes to the Allan Cup.
If there are not enough teams to properly have a regional championship, the event should no longer exist.
All other sanctioned hockey in Canada (Telus & RBC) that host National Championships have abundant hockey to allow them to get the best teams competing, the Allan Cup does not. Its over.
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Post by southoftheborder on Jan 10, 2019 14:12:45 GMT -5
This event has regional qualifiers to decide who goes to the Allan Cup. If there are not enough teams to properly have a regional championship, the event should no longer exist. All other sanctioned hockey in Canada (Telus & RBC) that host National Championships have abundant hockey to allow them to get the best teams competing, the Allan Cup does not. Its over. Unfortunately, you are probably right but, with over a century of tradition one has to try what you can to keep it going. The present format is running into more and more issues.
The Allan Cup began its downfall with the advent of television in Canada in 1952 and has been dying a slow death since then which is over half of its existence.
However, there are nearly 300 teams across Canada that play at the Senior AAA, Senior AA/A, and Intermediate levels. Get the senior game truly back to the grass roots level. Saskatchewan alone has nearly 100 teams at the senior level with 13 leagues under its authority and another 7 playing in a league that is governed by Alberta. Quebec has about 50 teams playing at the senior level and that's not including another six in the semi-professional LNAH. The players are there. Would any of these teams even hold a candle to teams like the Winnipeg Falcons from 1920 (Allan Cup champion and later Olympic champions), probably not, but wouldn't it be nice if anyone of those teams could compete for a chance to say they are the best amateur team in Canada?
Abolish the different Senior levels and replace it with an open level. Allow players to get a stipend to help offset lost wages. Be open about it, they allow professionals in the Olympics for hockey so what is the big deal about players earning some money. The only sanctioning body that cares about that is the NCAA (and they are a bunch of hypocrites anyway when it comes to enforcement).
There are about two dozen senior teams playing in several league's across the United States (two of those teams from Houghton, MI and Calumet, MI date back to 1937. If given the opportunity to play for another shot at glory, how many more former players from across the Northern US that played college hockey would give it a try. If you look back at the history of the Allan Cup some university's alumni would put a team together and try to compete for the Allan Cup. American teams have won and hosted the event while playing in Canadian based leagues but open it up to teams and leagues sanctioned by USA Hockey.
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Post by sprintcars on Jan 11, 2019 11:18:42 GMT -5
If the Allan Cup would go to a format similar to the ISC fastball it would open up for senior teams in North America
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Post by 3bar on Jan 16, 2019 13:10:31 GMT -5
Thinking outside the box here and maybe I'm WAAAAYYYY off but sooner or later the Allan Cup needs to go back to what it was originally which is a challenge cup, where teams who think they have what it takes Challenge the current cup holder to a best of three weekend series at the home of the current cup holder. This could erase two of the biggest issues i see every year on this discussion board. 1. it eliminates one and done teams who spring up when its convenient. 2. its a cheaper alternative to have a weekend of hockey rather than a week of hockey, less cost plus the best players could most likely commit to a shorter time frame. There would still have to be some requirements such as challengers must be a part of a recognized league in good standing with either Hockey Canada or Hockey USA. You may have to limit the number of challengers per year say 2 or 3. The dates and teams would have to be decided in late spring to allow proper scheduling as far a league play goes. There would have to be some kind of board who decides what challengers would be given the opportunity to challenge the cup holder as there will most likely be multiple teams who would want to challenge. Something that would take time to work out but it can't possibly be any worse of an idea than whats happening now. I mean all 4 teams in ACHW could potentially be at this years Allan Cup.
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ranul
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Post by ranul on Jan 30, 2019 23:39:17 GMT -5
Any league with 4 or more Aaa teams should get a spot . A potion of ticket sales would go into a pot that would be used to help pay for the expenses of the team that is going from league . If a province or region has four or more teams then they will get a spot . This year allan cup Ontario gets a spot Allan cup west gets a spot And Manitoba gets A spot and the runner up of Manitoba and Ontario and Haut-Madawaska will battle for a spot . 5 team round robin top 2 play in the finals
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Post by naitch on Jan 31, 2019 9:23:27 GMT -5
Any league with 4 or more Aaa teams should get a spot . A potion of ticket sales would go into a pot that would be used to help pay for the expenses of the team that is going from league . If a province or region has four or more teams then they will get a spot . This year allan cup Ontario gets a spot Allan cup west gets a spot And Manitoba gets A spot and the runner up of Manitoba and Ontario and Haut-Madawaska will battle for a spot . 5 team round robin top 2 play in the finals "A potion of ticket sales would go into a pot..." Yes, in a perfect climate where AAA teams are actually making $$$ and not breaking even or in the hole at the end of the season. Unfortunately, the latter 2 are reality for some teams. If there is to be any injection of $$$, it should come from Hockey Canada.
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Post by ranul on Jan 31, 2019 12:24:37 GMT -5
Any league with 4 or more Aaa teams should get a spot . A potion of ticket sales would go into a pot that would be used to help pay for the expenses of the team that is going from league . If a province or region has four or more teams then they will get a spot . This year allan cup Ontario gets a spot Allan cup west gets a spot And Manitoba gets A spot and the runner up of Manitoba and Ontario and Haut-Madawaska will battle for a spot . 5 team round robin top 2 play in the finals "A potion of ticket sales would go into a pot..." Yes, in a perfect climate where AAA teams are actually making $$$ and not breaking even or in the hole at the end of the season. Unfortunately, the latter 2 are reality for some teams. If there is to be any injection of $$$, it should come from Hockey Canada. The idea would be for the cost of the trip to spread out over the league instead of just one team paying for the trip . Like add $1 per game for each ticket .
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