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Post by Doug Mathieson on Feb 26, 2012 9:27:05 GMT -5
Sun Feb 26 - Bentley at Horse Lake Game
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Post by jgreeder on Feb 26, 2012 18:39:01 GMT -5
5-2 Horse after 2. Do the almighty Gens have enough intestinal fortitude to make a comeback like game 2?
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Post by kingd on Feb 26, 2012 19:18:41 GMT -5
6-3 final for horse lake
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Post by padjjeff on Feb 26, 2012 19:25:39 GMT -5
Balls to the wall now!
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Post by proview on Feb 26, 2012 20:32:11 GMT -5
HL was simply better today . The Gens are in big trouble . And on a side note wade, me and you went round and round about talent in the NPHL a couple years back on the stampeders web site and in paticuler Mike LEFLEY, and then today there he is in a Bentley uniform , and not only playing but one of the only Gens to put any fear in any HL player. I thought may be the Gens best player. Theres more talent in the NPHL and your Gens need it badly.
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Post by padjjeff on Feb 26, 2012 22:18:21 GMT -5
IMO the turning point was Game 1. A game we should have won by all accounts. Outplayed HL for the most, outshot them by a 2-1 ratio (accurate), yet let them hang around. IT could be 2-2 heading into Friday, but instead it's 3-1. The mentality is now one game at a time. The fat lady hasn't sung yet, but she's tuning up and it's up to the Generals to shut her fat yap!
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Post by wade on Feb 27, 2012 3:18:06 GMT -5
HL was simply better today . The Gens are in big trouble . And on a side note wade, me and you went round and round about talent in the NPHL a couple years back on the stampeders web site and in paticuler Mike LEFLEY, and then today there he is in a Bentley uniform , and not only playing but one of the only Gens to put any fear in any HL player. I thought may be the Gens best player. Theres more talent in the NPHL and your Gens need it badly. As you often are, Poorview, your dead wrong with this post. On a couple of things.... First and foremost...the Bentley Generals absolutley do NOT need any more "talent" than what they already have. Actually, in my opinion, they would do well to use the affiliates they have with extreme caution instead focusing much more on getting more out of the guys they've ran with up to this point. The Gens are NOT losing this series due to a lack of talent! They are losing this series due to a lack of luck, discipline, execution and an inability to make a couple of critical coaching adjustments. (not neccesarily in this order). Horse Lake doesn't have any more talent than the Generals. Thats not to say the Chiefs aren't an impressive roster...but...the bottom line is HL is executing with what they've got & running plays which their opposition has failed to counter against. Really simple stuff here. Secondly, I felt Lefley had a decent game today but its silly talk to suggest he was our best player in a game where the rest of the team was (mostly) piss poor. If he was our best player today....then shame on the rest of the squad. And finally...forget about using this series as any kind of validation for the NPHL's behalf because the best move Horse Lake ever made was to NOT worry about their NPHL games, saving their energy for SR AAA hockey instead. Just look at their regular season record and the regular season roster against what they're doing right now...there is no comparison! Their top players are ALL guys they brought in at some point this year for the sole purpose of winning the Allan Cup. Do you think for a second Jesse Dudas or Travis Dunstall or Andrew Dertson wouldn't be (BY FAR) the top point getters in the NPHL if they gave a rats ass about the NPHL???!!! Do you think for a second there is any other NPHL team that could skate with what HL dressed today???!!! GP & Spirit River both have some solid players who can help a SR AAA squad. All of those guys are carded with either Bentley or Horse Lake already. But like I said...its not about NPHL talent deciding this series. Its about executing with what you've got. HL has done a better job than Bentley and thats why they're leading the series. With all that said...I also felt HL got things to go just the way they've wanted/needed up to this point....and now? ..... Its down to emergency hockey for the defending SR AAA Provincial Champs and do I think they have a chance to turn this around? You bet your small mans syndromed ass I do.
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Post by bardown on Feb 27, 2012 9:16:58 GMT -5
sorta to the point wade, we did not care bout nphl as we cannot compete in playoffs so why worry if we beat dawson in november,we did save for the run and hopefully do move on. bentley looked uninterested in the 2 games by the third pd in saturdays and 2nd pd in sundays, lefley wasnt the best but one the only ones trying every shift it seems some generals wanted game to be over and get on the bus.interesting note both vandemeers were not in lineup sunday? trouble in sutters locker room, wrong time. go chiefs
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Post by insider on Feb 27, 2012 12:59:56 GMT -5
I would put money on HL moving on to play Stony on the final. And I'll be the first to admit I was wrong when I predicted a Bentley vs Sylvan Lake final. I'm not taking anything away from HL or SP, they both have solid teams with great PP's, but I thought the Gens and SLA would meet in the final.
I'm still kinda shocked to see SLA get swept, by any team, leat alone SP. Kinda interested to hear what happened at the end of their 4th game. I saw 6 Gross Misconducts handed out at the end, and heard 2 guys from SLA ended up in the hospital. But not having allstar goalie Jordy Mcglaughlin looked to be a killer.
The Gens are going to same way as SLA, high end expectations, low end performance. Joe Vandermeer better have been hurt to not play yesterday, because if he was a healthy scratch, then the team has long term trouble, not just for this series. Maybe the grind of playing highly talented AAA teams all year isn't helping the Chinook league teams, because it looks like Rosetown laid a beating on Lloyd as well.
Either way, may as well fold us base camp on both central AB teams, HL and Stony will be a good final.
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Post by proview on Feb 27, 2012 20:08:22 GMT -5
Wade so much of your post is wrong but I will not even start with you. But I did like this part of it, and think it shows something, from your last post- (inability to make a couple of critical coaching adjustments. ) . I dont think I would be knocking the coach you have . You enjoy the rest of the playoffs.
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Post by hockeypops on Feb 27, 2012 20:40:36 GMT -5
I would put money on HL moving on to play Stony on the final. And I'll be the first to admit I was wrong when I predicted a Bentley vs Sylvan Lake final. I'm not taking anything away from HL or SP, they both have solid teams with great PP's, but I thought the Gens and SLA would meet in the final. I'm still kinda shocked to see SLA get swept, by any team, leat alone SP. Kinda interested to hear what happened at the end of their 4th game. I saw 6 Gross Misconducts handed out at the end, and heard 2 guys from SLA ended up in the hospital. But not having allstar goalie Jordy Mcglaughlin looked to be a killer. The Gens are going to same way as SLA, high end expectations, low end performance. Joe Vandermeer better have been hurt to not play yesterday, because if he was a healthy scratch, then the team has long term trouble, not just for this series. Maybe the grind of playing highly talented AAA teams all year isn't helping the Chinook league teams, because it looks like Rosetown laid a beating on Lloyd as well. Either way, may as well fold us base camp on both central AB teams, HL and Stony will be a good final. Not much can be said at this time as the misconducts have as yet to be dealt with but yes McLaughlin was missed, yes we were missing key players for some of the games and yes, game four ended with an extremely contraversial call that the Referee admitted he made but refused to change the cal and hence the outcome of the game and series and lastly yes two players ended up in hospital on two non-penalty contraversial calls. As for the misconducts, draw your own conclusions as to why.
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Post by wade on Feb 27, 2012 21:58:58 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel like a cyber-janitor...following behind the little urchins to clean up the messes created through speculation and wishful thinking. Of course Joey Vandermeer was NOT a "healthy scratch". He was injured in game 2 & then things took a turn for the worse in game 3. There will be no further details or discussions on his injury/condition. Just know that he was hurt. Secondly, there are all kinds of different adjectives a person can use to describe pretty much any team in a dire straits situation. I find it peculiar that when those blue moons rise on the Army and the happen to get beat a couple of times...people outside of the team seem to try & convince themselves that its equivalent to an apocalypse. Just because someone loses a couple of games doesn't mean they've bought the farm or folded the tent. The Gens' do NOT have "trouble in the dressing room" or a "lack of interest". Like I said this morning...they failed to execute. They got out-played. Shit happens. Have they been out-coached in this series? No. I don't think so & thats not what I meant to imply when I said they failed to make coaching adjustments. Im not in the locker room, so, I don't know what the game plan was/is in its entirety. What I do know is Sutters' teams tend to play to their strengths and if it ends up being the hill they die on...thats the way it is. They're a grinding style squad which isn't grinding effectivley/enough. Personally...I can understand this part of it because I think the credit has to go to Horse Lake for having passed the puck very smartly. They make themselves hard to hit by doing this. In fact...there are times when I see the Gens unsure whether or not to even try for a hit because its not ending with the results they're needing when they DO make checks. But then there is the special teams aspect.... And I feel thats something which we need to do differently. For all I know...the coaching staff has already tried to draw up some different ideas & its the players unable to translate it into the game(s). It is also possible the coaches have missed some things which I happen to be seeing. And I won't apologize for saying this...because the thing is...I happen to know a thing or two about hockey. Im not even remotley suggesting I know as much as Sutter...but...I believe I have a keen enough eye to warrant speaking up once in awhile...for discussions sake ONLY. Afterall...thats part of the fun, IMO.
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Post by wade on Feb 28, 2012 16:46:09 GMT -5
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