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Post by mlh01 on Mar 18, 2023 22:22:36 GMT -5
And remember this is a new beginning. Essentially trying to get the old lady (Allan is her name 🙂) back in the groove. This year is a “Challenge for the Allan Cup”. Not a series of champions. Open season.
Goal is to get more teams interested in AAA.
Once interest is tweaked again, the second goal is how to make it affordable to travel / host an Allan Cup
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 18, 2023 22:18:15 GMT -5
And idea which team? Hoping Clarenville. They have great organization I can’t see how any Newfoundland teams could commit? They’re having a Herder Series during the same time the Dundas Tournament is happening. Clarenville was eliminated in quarter finals. They’d be likely choice as their season is already over.
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 18, 2023 11:34:48 GMT -5
Sounds like NFLD team is being serious on taking the 4th spot in the Tournament. Sounds like Stony Plain has made a tough reverse decision on participating And idea which team? Hoping Clarenville. They have great organization
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 15, 2023 22:52:01 GMT -5
Finally Official:
The Ontario Hockey Association is pleased to announce that one of its members, namely the Dundas Real McCoys, will hosting “The Challenge for the Allan Cup” in Dundas, Ontario April 17-22, 2023. It will be the third time the Real McCoys have hosted this Canadian iconic championship. The Real McCoy’s are former Allan Cup Champions as well as reigning Robertson Cup Champions.
The event will consist of 4 Teams including the Real McCoys and the Innisfail Eagles from Alberta. There will also be a second team from the OHA’s Allan Cup Hockey league and a 4th team to be announced. All games will be played at the newly renovated J L Grightmire Arena in Dundas. The Allan Cup is Canada’s oldest national hockey championship and is awarded annually to the Senior AAA ice hockey champions in Canada.
Tickets will be available to purchase here on April 1st.
“The OHA is absolutely thrilled to be hosting the 2023 Allan Cup Challenge within its membership. We are proud to be bringing this event back to Ontario, especially after a three-year hiatus due to the pandemic,” said OHA Board of Directors Chair Marc Mercier. “It only seems appropriate that the oldest hockey association in Canada is hosting the oldest hockey championship in the country in the great hockey community of Dundas.”
The event kicks off on April 17. Here is the full schedule:
Tickets will be available to purchase here on April 1st
Date Games Time Monday April 17 ACH vs TBD 3:30 PM Monday April 17 Dundas vs Innisfail 7:30 PM Tuesday April 18 Innisfail vs TBD 3:30 PM Tuesday April 18 Dundas vs ACH 7:30 PM Wednesday April 19 ACH vs Innisfail 7:30 PM Thursday April 20 Dundas vs TBD 7:30 PM Friday April 21 Semi Final TBD vs TBD 7:30 PM Saturday April 22 Final TBD vs TBD TBD
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 14, 2023 15:16:32 GMT -5
to grow the game at the AAA level will be very difficult in Ontario The outlaw AA leagues are growing and are providing good competition for players returning from the professional ranks and graduating players from junior and university There is no competition for returning pros. They all go to AAA unless they live deep in the Southwestern area of Ontario. Each outlaw team is only allowed 2 ex-Pros. And then they even limit the # of Major Jr players to 4 players. Why would someone returning from Europe or ECHL…whatever pro league , play in the AA Outlaw league with NCAA Division 3 and Jr C players, of which each team is 75-80% made from? When they can play on teams filled with much higher caliber? I’ve watched games. Good competition. But the level of play is very far below ACH. Years ago when Clinton stacked their team with ex-pros, then yes, they could compete. But not now. Not even close. The WOSHL goes a step farther and distributes players based on calibre. I hope the rumours finally pan out and the ACH can add 2-3 franchises next season. The hope is the Allan Cup will showcase the level of play at the AAA level !
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 12, 2023 23:21:03 GMT -5
To add to this, I can tell you that Dundas is paying for the whole Allan Cup solely with sponsorship money. Last figure I heard was a paltry $7500 from Hockey Canada, which now could be zero funds.
Very sad state of affairs. The amount of money paid out by Hockey Canada, that we’ve all read about in the press, and they virtually have no money to help run the smaller National championships.
Kudos to Dundas for trying to resurrect the Allan Cup. Post Covid it’s not easy. And kudos to Inny for trying to raise money.
Who cares about 5-6 years ago. The world has changed. I will be logging on and contributing to their Go Fund me.
Looking forward to seeing both Alberta teams down here in Dundas. And seeing Senior hockey trying to grow again.
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AAA TEAMS
Mar 10, 2023 17:21:13 GMT -5
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 10, 2023 17:21:13 GMT -5
One thing to contest, though, is your comment about AA teams icing a better product than AAA. If you mean “on ice talent”, you are so far off it’s not funny. All AA teams in Ontario, whether it’s the WOSHL or the outlaw WOAA league, both limit the number of former pros to just 2-3 per team.
The McCoys, Steelers, Gryphins are 90% ex-pro. The AA teams would be throttled. Trust me I’ve watched both levels.
Maybe Alberta AA doesn’t have a pro level limit?
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AAA TEAMS
Mar 10, 2023 17:16:41 GMT -5
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 10, 2023 17:16:41 GMT -5
Or...allow AA teams to compete? They don’t have any interest in going AAA. In fact, the AA leagues mandated not to allow AAA teams in their leagues. Which, by the way, are icing a much better product than what any of the so called AAA teams/leagues are doing Wade good to see you posting again. You should write a book. Were you in any of the scenes from the Senior documentary about the Bentley Generals in the middle of last decade? Love that doc For those who aren’t familiar it’s a Canadian documentary film that followed the Bentley Generals during a full season right to the Allan Cup. One of my favourites. Title is “Blood, Sweat and Beers”. It’s on Tubi.
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Post by mlh01 on Mar 3, 2023 14:57:57 GMT -5
why don't Wentworth Gryphins and Hamilton Steelers just have a series to decide the spot Because it’s also the Ontario Championship. Robertson Cup up for grabs.
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Post by mlh01 on Feb 26, 2023 14:38:41 GMT -5
I hope there are multiple bids. I did talk to a few Executive members and can confirm there is interest for 2024 in Dundas as well. I think it would be great to have it go out West and then come East for 2025. But there needs to be genuine interest and a sound game plan to host. Would be great for Senior hockey to get back to bidding wars to host the Allan. But the sad reality now is there are only 6-7 AAA teams registered Nationally. 20 years ago it was as high as 30-ish registered AAA
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Post by mlh01 on Feb 24, 2023 22:40:25 GMT -5
Allan Cup to run after Womens Workd Championship in Brampton. So will run April 16 to 22. Good choice to NOT go up against women’s worlds.
Likely first game will be Mon April 17.
Looking forward to Allan Cup finally coming back !!
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Post by mlh01 on Feb 24, 2023 22:37:41 GMT -5
Yes it’s confirmed. Allan Cup in Dundas 2023. Also likely in Dundas for 2024. McCoys have kept Senior hockey alive and hearing tonight Hockey Canada will give Allan Cup to Dundas two straight years. Well deserved
Two teams from Alberta. Dundas as host. Fourth team will be either Wentworth or Hamilton.
ACH playoffs start next week. Hamilton, Wentworth and Dundas. Round Robin, home and home. Six games total. Winner to Allan Cup
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Post by mlh01 on Feb 3, 2023 21:48:58 GMT -5
You are both right. Two scenarios that could happen.
Most likely I’m hearing is 2 Alberta teams, Dundas and league winner in Ontario
Outside chance team from New Brunswick. But most likely is 2 Alberta teams; 2 Ontario teams.
It’s a start to get Senior hockey back.
99% there I’m hearing. Easter weekend final.
Stay tuned.
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Post by mlh01 on Jan 27, 2023 23:11:09 GMT -5
Rumours at rink tonight that Dundas awarded 2023 Allan Cup. 4 team round robin instead of the six team format used in last 10+ Cups. Will start weekend of April 15. All games in Dundas.
Hoping announcement next week.
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Post by mlh01 on Jan 1, 2023 12:16:55 GMT -5
Looked even farther and Doug has every single score from every Allan Cup game documented on the link I pasted, going back to 1909
Again not knowledgeable enough to know if all this info can suddenly disappear even though archived here?
Let’s figure out. Would love to start a website to put all of this into.
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