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Post by corpse on Mar 27, 2012 21:53:35 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, with the alledged holes on defense HL may have now. How many AP will be available from Grande Prairie and Fahler that might fill some of them holes?
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Post by sam on Mar 27, 2012 22:36:40 GMT -5
Sasha I think (don't quote me) is suspended for a year? He may be referring to Greg his brother.
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Post by sam on Mar 27, 2012 22:38:58 GMT -5
Corpse - there are a lot of holes on hl defense and seeing as this weekend is the AA/A provincials and both GP and Falher are in the tournament it will be interesting to see what the defensive lineup will be.
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Post by wade on Mar 27, 2012 22:55:06 GMT -5
It would be Gregg Lakovic. Sashas' brother.
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Post by wade on Mar 27, 2012 23:11:32 GMT -5
As we all know by now...HL relies heavily on Steve Later. He has been the lock which bolts the door on defence for the Chiefs.
If he is suspended (?) that would constitute a 'big hole'.
That being said...between Dudas, Derton and Noble...thats still enough top end defencemen for them to be alright and Boutilier won't hurt them either.
Coaching becomes pretty simple at this point...you play your top players until they turn blue. And once that happens you allow for a short water break and then you put them on the ice again and tell them not to come back without a trophy.
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Post by jspickle on Mar 27, 2012 23:29:06 GMT -5
later got turned inside out a couple times on sunday,he also missed the puck in game four that stony scored the winner on,i dont think it hurts them that much with him out
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Post by hockeypops on Mar 27, 2012 23:49:12 GMT -5
Noone will ever know Wade.. Derton is back, Later is suspended 1 game i believe, Jackson 1 more game. Kip played last game and seemed fine, might have had a bit of the flu. Heard Lakovic might make his first appearance of the series on Sat. Maybe even some more fresh faces. Guess we`ll have to wait and see. Greg Lakovic is a regular carded player for HL that doesn't cary any negative value such as A/P or Import and he certainly has some decent background in hockey with WHL, ECHL, CHL and AHL seasoning. Just a tadd on the aging side at 37. Hopefully he has stayed skating and in shape for when he's called up for action.
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Post by naitch on Mar 28, 2012 8:00:53 GMT -5
It would be Gregg Lakovic. Sashas' brother. Thanks for confirming
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Post by hockey19 on Mar 29, 2012 23:50:49 GMT -5
Ya that be him, the bigger tough one. All this series is missing is a good scrap. Fort sask big guy wanted no piece but, im sure Zahara or skinner will step up, they been looking all series.
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Post by hockeypops on Mar 30, 2012 0:01:09 GMT -5
Ya that be him, the bigger tough one. All this series is missing is a good scrap. Fort sask big guy wanted no piece but, im sure Zahara or skinner will step up, they been looking all series. Maybe but I wouldn't count on it. The Stony boys have been tested before and love to play on the edge but are generally smart enough to stay away from an all out scrap and get tossed from the game. Remember in Senior Hockey there is zero tolerance for fighting so your just gone - period and the same applies for the HL player, he is gone also. Should it happen in the last 10 minutes of the third he's gone from the game and sits the next game as well. Not exactly a great way to start against the Regals, if your winning!!!
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Post by naitch on Mar 30, 2012 6:12:07 GMT -5
Stupid, stupid rule....
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Post by hockeypops on Mar 30, 2012 9:17:03 GMT -5
Yep -- for sure it is but they are pushing for even more stringent rules that may toss a player for 1 or 2 games for fighting, no matter when the fight occurs. I also understand that this rule will soon been implemented in Junior A as well. I think it's time for the Senior Mens Hockey to establish it's own governing body and become independent of Minor Hockey because that's what's driving the rules as Senior Hockey is just considered older Minor Hockey players or as they refer to it "Amateur Hockey". Age does not become part of the equation and we don't enjoy the same independance of rules as the Major Junior or NHL, who write their own.
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Post by naitch on Mar 30, 2012 10:12:14 GMT -5
Yep -- for sure it is but they are pushing for even more stringent rules that may toss a player for 1 or 2 games for fighting, no matter when the fight occurs. I also understand that this rule will soon been implemented in Junior A as well. I think it's time for the Senior Mens Hockey to establish it's own governing body and become independent of Minor Hockey because that's what's driving the rules as Senior Hockey is just considered older Minor Hockey players or as they refer to it "Amateur Hockey". Age does not become part of the equation and we don't enjoy the same independance of rules as the Major Junior or NHL, who write their own. I agree Hockeypops...as a paying fan of Senior AAA hockey here in Ontario for many, many years...if they outlaw droppin the mitts by implementing lengthy suspensions...i guess i have seen my last game of Senior AAA hockey then. The stickwork that exists in the league as it stands today is enough...there is no accountability. As a father of young boys, i would rather explain to them why 2 players have decided to fight then why a player decided to stick someone all over the ice. There used to be a time that if you decided to stick someone, be prepared to answer for it...that no longer exists.
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Post by hockeypops on Mar 30, 2012 11:38:15 GMT -5
Yep -- for sure it is but they are pushing for even more stringent rules that may toss a player for 1 or 2 games for fighting, no matter when the fight occurs. I also understand that this rule will soon been implemented in Junior A as well. I think it's time for the Senior Mens Hockey to establish it's own governing body and become independent of Minor Hockey because that's what's driving the rules as Senior Hockey is just considered older Minor Hockey players or as they refer to it "Amateur Hockey". Age does not become part of the equation and we don't enjoy the same independance of rules as the Major Junior or NHL, who write their own. I agree Hockeypops...as a paying fan of Senior AAA hockey here in Ontario for many, many years...if they outlaw droppin the mitts by implementing lengthy suspensions...i guess i have seen my last game of Senior AAA hockey then. The stickwork that exists in the league as it stands today is enough...there is no accountability. As a father of young boys, i would rather explain to them why 2 players have decided to fight then why a player decided to stick someone all over the ice. There used to be a time that if you decided to stick someone, be prepared to answer for it...that no longer exists. Several of the Senior Referees in Alberta have commented in a similar fashion that with the 2 fight rule, far more was sorted out on the ice and far less stick action was used when there was a price to pay for being an idiot on the ice. Removing the two fight rule has allowed many cheap shot artists to get away with far to much. Further to the new rules, they are talking in Jr A Hockey of creating fines for the Coaches for allowing players to fight or more acurately if a player is in a second or third fight in a season there will be suspensions AND fines. The more fights by one player the bigger the fine and longer the suspension.
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Post by jimc on Mar 30, 2012 11:47:06 GMT -5
It is an idiotic rule...no question.
Ron Maclean, a Level 6 (?) ref who has worked thousands of games in his life said as much on Coach's Corner last week. he said he is 100% in favour of keeping fighting in high level hockey because it absolutely polices the cheap stuff. What needs to have zero tolerance, instead of fighting, is brutal stickwork and cheapshots...THAT is what gives hockey a bad name and a rash of injuries.
You will never see Jr leagues banning guys for fighting...you may see the OHL set a limit of 6-8 fights per season, and suspend guys who go over, but that is simply because Dave Branch is an idiot who needs to be put out to pasture. I know the WHL has zero interest in yachting that limits fighting,. and the Q does not seem to have the same appetite or zeal. The NHL absolutely is opposed to this, and watch them apply some pressure behind the scenes.
if you want to prevent overage players from potentially picking on 15-16 YO's, which has been the 'logic' behind this nonsense, you can tweak existing rules to protect youngsters and skilled players.
yeah, lets fine the coach for 'allowing' his players to fight, in the heat of the battle...who dreams this shit up?
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