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Post by wade on Apr 6, 2016 12:18:39 GMT -5
The biggest advantage Manitoba has is that they have no league , as long as teams like Bently sighn away our best players like Bagnall for example , we will never have a league , therefore with no league mb will always have a well rested provincial all star team to attend the national championship Did you just blame MB's lack of a SR AAA league on the fact one team has signed on MB born player for one year?! Oh...and by the way...Bagnall and his family live in Edmonton. Mind you...that shouldn't matter for SEPT...seeing as how they've historically been succesful signing American-Bred players.
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Post by tom on Apr 6, 2016 17:26:58 GMT -5
Last fall you were on here boasting about how Bentley was able to sighn bagnall away from Manitoba , now your saying he lives in Edmonton ok
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Post by wade on Apr 6, 2016 17:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by IceMan_M on Apr 6, 2016 23:59:35 GMT -5
Why not have a minimum requirement of games played to qualify for a SR AAA status... Plus the bond. Gets away from the "well rested" and "grinded out season" conversation. Just a thought.
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Post by naitch2727 on Apr 7, 2016 8:24:32 GMT -5
The biggest advantage Manitoba has is that they have no league , as long as teams like Bently sighn away our best players like Bagnall for example , we will never have a league , therefore with no league mb will always have a well rested provincial all star team to attend the national championship Complete hogwash
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2016 10:38:29 GMT -5
Why not have a minimum requirement of games played to qualify for a SR AAA status... Plus the bond. Gets away from the "well rested" and "grinded out season" conversation. Just a thought. Personally...I'm not worried about this issue being an advantage for the teams NOT playing games. I think it's caustic to the spirit of the troohy that we have teams who aren't really teams (IMO) but I don't think it's advantageous having a skeleton schedule. Unsporting? Yes. Cheating? Well...not really...I mean...they're simply declining to deal with all the challenges that come with participating all year long and because of this...I don't think there is much reward in winning an AC this way. IMO, at least. I guess what I'm saying is... I hate the fact some of these teams don't play games and then use affiliate players from other teams in the AC...but...I wouldn't suggest rule changes to deal with it...I would simply suggest kicking their ass all over Steinbach as a proper & sporting response to it.
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Post by southoftheborder on Apr 7, 2016 18:01:51 GMT -5
How about having the Senior AAA league champions (Chinook and Allan Cup Hockey) automatically qualify. And have the Saskatchewan Senior A champion, Manitoba Senior A, the Alberta Sr. A, and the Coy Cup (BC Sr.) champion advance like the Herder Cup champion does for the following year (or even for the same year). If Nova Scotia, PEI, and Quebec can get some leagues off the ground add them to the mix. There are so many leagues in the western provinces that some of these teams with could possibly contend for the Allan Cup. There are approximately 200 teams that play in leagues classified as Sr. AA or Sr. A across Canada and another ten teams that play in Sr. AAA leagues. Make the Allan Cup an open Senior level championship. About the only league that would be ruled out for this level would be the LNAH.
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Post by wade on Apr 7, 2016 18:35:38 GMT -5
The problem with opening the door like that, SOTB, is: While some 'A' teams might be able to compete with 'AAA' teams...they don't have the ability to raise the funds to travel across Canada to do it & even if they were given a full year to find the $$$ ...it's extremely unlikely they'd be able to do so. Most SR 'A' teams lose $$$ just playing in domestic leagues.
Bottom line...The Allan Cup tournament needs to find $$$ to cover qualifying teams coming into the tournament. Until this happens...making a run at the Allan Cup will continue to be a devestating drain on team funds, discouraging many potential competitors from entering.
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Post by southoftheborder on Apr 8, 2016 5:02:13 GMT -5
I know it's a pipe dream but Hockey Canada has treated the Allan Cup like a social disease in terms of funding. How about having some company step up and sponsor it like GM, Ford, Tim Hortons, Canadian Tire etc. and put some money into adult leagues for those kids that never lost the love of the game when they grew up. I'm not sure if the Sr. AAA players have jobs tied to them playing with some of the teams but regionalize the qualifying and make it a weekend series between BC-AB, SK-MB, Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic like it is now an open it to more teams. I am in the US and can't remember if Easter Monday is a holiday in all of Canada or just sections; but how about having the Allan Cup played Easter weekend with the regional champs and a host playing either Sat-Sun-Mon or Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon with either a semifinal round or no semifinal. This is one of the oldest championships in the world, the present system seems to be a road leading to a cliff. It needs to be preserved at a part of Canada's heritage.
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Post by wade on Apr 8, 2016 10:17:14 GMT -5
I know it's a pipe dream but Hockey Canada has treated the Allan Cup like a social disease in terms of funding. How about having some company step up and sponsor it like GM, Ford, Tim Hortons, Canadian Tire etc. and put some money into adult leagues for those kids that never lost the love of the game when they grew up. I'm not sure if the Sr. AAA players have jobs tied to them playing with some of the teams but regionalize the qualifying and make it a weekend series between BC-AB, SK-MB, Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic like it is now an open it to more teams. I am in the US and can't remember if Easter Monday is a holiday in all of Canada or just sections; but how about having the Allan Cup played Easter weekend with the regional champs and a host playing either Sat-Sun-Mon or Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon with either a semifinal round or no semifinal. This is one of the oldest championships in the world, the present system seems to be a road leading to a cliff. It needs to be preserved at a part of Canada's heritage. Hockey Canadas title sponsors actually get signage rights to the Allan Cup Finals broadcast even though they don't contribute any direct $$$ to the tournament. The local business' that DID put direct dollars into the tournament get their signage covered up during the Finals broadcast! How messed up is that?!
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Post by jimc on Apr 8, 2016 11:22:03 GMT -5
sooooooooooooooooooo
maybe if MB HAD a Sr AAA league, their one player wouldn't want or need to sign to play in AB?
Hello?
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Post by wade on Apr 8, 2016 11:57:30 GMT -5
sooooooooooooooooooo maybe if MB HAD a Sr AAA league, their one player wouldn't want or need to sign to play in AB? Hello? Don't be misled by "Tom". Manitoba has 2 excellent SR Leagues and several players from those leagues will play in Steinbach as "AP's" next week. Bagnall was already in Alberta long before the Gens' ever contacted him. I know the EXACT circumstances behind the entire story.
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Post by tom on Apr 8, 2016 13:11:07 GMT -5
On another thread earlier this winter wade posted that Manitoba had a double a league , and that some of the APs were playing in it . What is the name of this double a league I never heard of it
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Post by wade on Apr 8, 2016 13:45:12 GMT -5
On another thread earlier this winter wade posted that Manitoba had a double a league , and that some of the APs were playing in it . What is the name of this double a league I never heard of it I advise you do some homework, Tom. I'm not about to hold your hand and walk you all the way to your desk.
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Post by AFAN on Apr 8, 2016 19:42:35 GMT -5
WELL IT ALL STARTS IN 3 DAYS. THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT IM SCARED OF THE SEPT TEAM. THEY WON IT LAST YEAR WITH HALF A TEAM AND A MILLION MILES FROM HOME. NOW THEY ARE A FULL ROSTER AND AT HOME. I DO THINK THAT A COUPLE OR MAYBE ALL TEAMS COULD UPSET THEM THOUGH ESPECIALLY WHEN IT GETS TO THE SINGLE GAME KNOCKOUTS. GONNA BE GOOD.
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