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Post by rinkratz on May 4, 2011 19:31:15 GMT -5
With 44 cards could Brantford sign a line from the Peterborough area, a line from Orillia and a line from Whitby to help fill the roster for away games or is strictly for Allan Cup Play?
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Post by Curtis on May 5, 2011 16:12:51 GMT -5
It still wont make a difference in the MLH. If you want to operate a senior team in MLH or south ontario, you have to apply AAA status. OHA does not recognize AA. There are 25 plus AA/A senior teams in western ontario playing in the WOAA that are not recocnized by OHA so they cannot be used as affiliates...but they shouls be! So its still Jr affiliates for MLH if you can get them.
Now if the OHA would allow each team that joins the MLH to be AAA or AA and all play in the same league for seasonal games ( organized practices) and divide it up for playoffs, then maybe this rule would help. You may also find a few more teams in the league.
The AAA playoff to advance toward the cup, the AA playoff for the old Remax cup .
Each AAA team would have a AA affiliate which players can only be used in playoffs / Northern playoff / Allan cup.
Entertaining enough for you.
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Post by wade on May 5, 2011 18:01:08 GMT -5
With 44 cards could Brantford sign a line from the Peterborough area, a line from Orillia and a line from Whitby to help fill the roster for away games or is strictly for Allan Cup Play? They can affiliate (and use) ANY player signed to an allotment with any registered team from a lower tier at any time during the season. Affiliates can play an unlimited amount of games with their 'parent team' up to January 10th. After January 10th they can play UP TO 5 games with the 'parent team' and if they play MORE THAN 5 games, they are then considered property of the 'parent team' and no longer eligible to play with the team they orginally signed a card with. (although, I believe the player will still remain the property of the team he signed with.) Not sure if this clears up your confusion? I can pretty much predict whats going to happen coast to coast. Newfoundland will now send an All Star team each year, under the banner of the previous seasons' Herder Cup Champion. (redonkulous!) Ontario will get 100% hosed on this ruling...unless they can magically create a SR AA league over night. Manitoba and Saskatchewan will have the opportunity to do something similar to what will happen in Newfoundland...but I don't see it being an extreme example because MOST of the SR AAA teams in the West Region have some team pride and respect for the traditional ideas of Allan Cup Hockey. Alberta's current field of 4 SR AAA teams will increase by at least one...possibly 2 or 3 more....and they'll clamour over each other trying to recruit from a list of 20-ish truly 'AAA calibre' players to fill a demand of anywhere from 70-100+ affiliate cards...depending on how many SR AA teams choose to jump to SR AAA. In BC....Its maybe the toughest branch to get a gauge on. I think there is some talent available in BC's SR AA league(s)...but...at what cost?
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Post by jimc on May 10, 2011 22:21:39 GMT -5
wade, weren't some of your best players affiliates...Bensmillers, G, etc?
Don...I seem to recall you affiliating with a local tier 2 JrA squad a few times, no? Also, it is going to be interesting when you or Peter want to affiliate with the renegade teams, and are told no dice because the OHA and Hockey Canada have colluded to keep them out of AC contention, and will undoubtedly not allow them to even affiliate with an MLH team.
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Post by Don Robertson on May 11, 2011 9:33:56 GMT -5
wade, weren't some of your best players affiliates...Bensmillers, G, etc? Don...I seem to recall you affiliating with a local tier 2 JrA squad a few times, no? Also, it is going to be interesting when you or Peter want to affiliate with the renegade teams, and are told no dice because the OHA and Hockey Canada have colluded to keep them out of AC contention, and will undoubtedly not allow them to even affiliate with an MLH team. Jim: You are correct we did have some Jr kids the issue with that is the better ones which we picked decide at the end of the season they won't play as they had scholarship opportunities and didn't want to get hurt. Jr level players as you know aren't going be make much difference in Allan Cup play anyway. With respect to the outlaw League we have reached out them regarding joining the OHA meetings the OHA and I have both attended, at this point it hasn't worked out but the effort and will is there on our part but they have a good League with many small towns to consider. Don Robertson
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Post by jimc on May 11, 2011 20:17:33 GMT -5
not sure they have the budget or revenue streams to play in MLH...but I still strongly maintain that the collusion between the OHA and Hockey Canada (and I do NOT know the stance of MLH operators here, but could hazard a guess?) is unfair to keep all those teams and towns marginalized.
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Post by wade on May 13, 2011 10:36:02 GMT -5
wade, weren't some of your best players affiliates...Bensmillers, G, etc? Don...I seem to recall you affiliating with a local tier 2 JrA squad a few times, no? Also, it is going to be interesting when you or Peter want to affiliate with the renegade teams, and are told no dice because the OHA and Hockey Canada have colluded to keep them out of AC contention, and will undoubtedly not allow them to even affiliate with an MLH team. jimc, The Gens' use Dewberry Mustangs as their affiliate and Bensmillers' are a big reason for this. Scott Galenza (goaltender) is NOT an affiliate and the other affiliates who dressed in Kenora were injury replacements. Of course, none of this has anything to do with the new affiliation rule anyways...because...the Gens could come out of this rule change twice as strong as ever before...so...trust me...my feelings on it have absolutley no regard for how it happens to effect the Bentley Generals. I am told Albertas' SR AAA teams were NOT on board with this rule change! I can't speak for any of them...but...I have to think they voted against it in the name of common sense because ANY of Alberta's SR AAA clubs could have looked at this and thought it MIGHT be a wide open opportunity to totally change the landscape out here. I suppose they each deserve credit for TRYING to maintain self-respect and traditional values...its just sad the majority didn't see it the same way. I can't really piece together HOW Hockey Canada got a favorable vote on this. I mean...the only teams who SHOULD have been voting on a SR AAA rule amendment are teams GARUNTEED to be playing SR AAA next year. The next question is: How does Hockey Canada discern the field for NEXT season prior to registration deadline? And yet...the motion was carried with Alberta being the ONLY Province against it.
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Post by rinkratz on May 19, 2011 6:12:22 GMT -5
It sounds like the HC officials are practicing for a career in provincial or federal politics, do what you want and stroke your friends that grease you the most.
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