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Post by Andrew on Sept 15, 2017 13:18:06 GMT -5
Some interesting news today out of the Allan Cup hockey Ontario pointstreak page. I'll let you read it for yourself but it's a break down of how thorolds players have been split up throughout the league after there exit late in the summer. Also interesting to note the ontario league is putting suggestions forward to the OHA and OHF to assist them when talking to a new National Allan Cup Competition Committee. Looking forward to hearing more about this committee in the future and what impact it will have on the tournament itself. Last point is the league is going down to a 17 man roster this year so bye bye 4th line. 9 forwards 6 defensemen and 2 goalies will most likely be format for a lot of teams, or 10 and 5. allancup.pointstreaksites.com/view/allancup/allan-cup-hockey-news/news_492954
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Post by jimc on Sept 19, 2017 18:16:08 GMT -5
I really dont like the 17 man roster...I know Don will disagree, but I have always thought it rewards teams for short benches, and punishes teams who recruit well and get solid participation from their players...this reduces the number of Sr AAA players in a time where we need more players getting experience in the league.
it allows teams to 'skate' by on short benches all year.
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Post by Don Robertson on Sept 19, 2017 20:34:51 GMT -5
I really dont like the 17 man roster...I know Don will disagree, but I have always thought it rewards teams for short benches, and punishes teams who recruit well and get solid participation from their players...this reduces the number of Sr AAA players in a time where we need more players getting experience in the league. it allows teams to 'skate' by on short benches all year. I'm a fan Jim because it show cases the best players, we always won with short benches and this might come back to bite me Don Robertson
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Post by Andrew on Sept 20, 2017 7:41:15 GMT -5
I don't think it's going to have as much impact on the game as you'd think. Most teams other then maybe stoney creek run a 3 line team for the most part anyways especially when there star players are there. I think what this is going to eliminate is the 4th line goons that play a few shifts a game and inevitably end up suspended for the season. In reality I think the star players are gonna play the exact same as they did before. if a team needed them on the ice they were on the ice already, My opinion is it's gonna take those few extra minutes played by 4th liners and that will end up getting spread out over the second and third lines.
My opinion is games where a teams good players are all at the games it won't effect anything, games where stars are missing and you've now got your 4th-12th best forwards on the ice is where you'll see teams struggle with players. But really thats no different then any other year.
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Post by wade on Sept 20, 2017 11:14:28 GMT -5
I think...at best...it's do-able during ACH regular season and playoffs.
But come time to play multiple games on consecutive nights during inter-provincial qualifyinging games + (possibly) Allan Cup tournament games...will the ACH teams simply add a couple players to form a traditional 18 skater roster?
Seems like they're planning on what's best for league play...as opposed to what's best for winnng an Allan Cup.
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Post by jimc on Sept 22, 2017 10:46:45 GMT -5
I think playoffs should have full rosters...unquestionably. Also, since tars seem to have the biggest 'problem' showing up, it is often your depth players who carry you through the season...eliminating spots for those guys just magnifies the short bench problems, IMO.
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Post by Andrew on Sept 22, 2017 10:59:45 GMT -5
Those depth guys will still be signed by the team they just won't be able to dress and sit on the bench in games where the whole team shows up. Might cause a few of those guys to sign elsewhere in other leagues where they can get a little more ice time though.
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Post by jimc on Sept 22, 2017 15:48:18 GMT -5
that is it exactly...if they sign, and cant ever play, they will look elsewhere.
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Post by gamer750 on Sept 27, 2017 12:13:12 GMT -5
have a look at the nl hockey talk web site, the hockey gods fm the east have thrown a f--k into local hockey. one day no league, next day a league(same one).
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Post by IceMan_M on Sept 27, 2017 14:37:18 GMT -5
have a look at the nl hockey talk web site, the hockey gods fm the east have thrown a f--k into local hockey. one day no league, next day a league(same one).Link? Link?
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Post by Doug Mathieson on Sept 27, 2017 14:53:18 GMT -5
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Post by IceMan_M on Sept 27, 2017 16:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by southoftheborder on Sept 27, 2017 18:18:04 GMT -5
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Post by bman on Oct 4, 2017 16:47:08 GMT -5
I really dont like the 17 man roster...I know Don will disagree, but I have always thought it rewards teams for short benches, and punishes teams who recruit well and get solid participation from their players...this reduces the number of Sr AAA players in a time where we need more players getting experience in the league. it allows teams to 'skate' by on short benches all year. I'm a fan Jim because it show cases the best players, we always won with short benches and this might come back to bite me Don Robertson Don , first and foremost i want to say , youre the best and have a lot of respect and admiration for you and what youve done for senior hockey , but allow me to call you out here. We always won with short benches? Dont you remember one of the best senior teams in recent memory? It was your last allan cup win , tournament roster. When you had a shorter bench without as much depth, in the playoffs against brantford you lost 4 out of 6 games if memory serves me right , brantford was certainly one of the best teams in canada that year mind you. Ive seen you get beat up pretty bad with short benches against the best teams. You guys rolled 4 lines that allan cup and the guys played like they were completely gassed in the final and clarenville was gassed too. Guys like Foreman , Delueew and Stayzer were the players who kept me and other fans coming out to see you guys every week , they were the most exciting players to watch. When Cristie rocked that guy from norwich with a great clean open ice hit and another guy from norwich immidiately went after christie and fought him who did the tap on the shoulder to go out next? Yes i bet you remember and that line lit up norwich, stupid decision by the norwich player going going after your captain like that. if you had 3 lines and had more commitment from guys like rowe and others , those players would have been healthy scratches, like white and others who were not in the tournament roster. Remember the open ice hits Delueew dished out that season , incredible stuff. In my opinion having a shorter bench than other teams has put you guys at a disadvantage the last couple seasons , i guess this may even up the playing field for dundas if other teams like stoney creek cant roll 4 lines against you. Dont think its a positive thing for the league.
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Post by Andrew on Oct 5, 2017 7:38:31 GMT -5
I'm a fan Jim because it show cases the best players, we always won with short benches and this might come back to bite me Don Robertson Don , first and foremost i want to say , youre the best and have a lot of respect and admiration for you and what youve done for senior hockey , but allow me to call you out here. We always won with short benches? Dont you remember one of the best senior teams in recent memory? It was your last allan cup win , tournament roster. When you had a shorter bench without as much depth, in the playoffs against brantford you lost 4 out of 6 games if memory serves me right , brantford was certainly one of the best teams in canada that year mind you. Ive seen you get beat up pretty bad with short benches against the best teams. You guys rolled 4 lines that allan cup and the guys played like they were completely gassed in the final and clarenville was gassed too. Guys like Foreman , Delueew and Stayzer were the players who kept me and other fans coming out to see you guys every week , they were the most exciting players to watch. When Cristie rocked that guy from norwich with a great clean open ice hit and another guy from norwich immidiately went after christie and fought him who did the tap on the shoulder to go out next? Yes i bet you remember and that line lit up norwich, stupid decision by the norwich player going going after your captain like that. if you had 3 lines and had more commitment from guys like rowe and others , those players would have been healthy scratches, like white and others who were not in the tournament roster. Remember the open ice hits Delueew dished out that season , incredible stuff. In my opinion having a shorter bench than other teams has put you guys at a disadvantage the last couple seasons , i guess this may even up the playing field for dundas if other teams like stoney creek cant roll 4 lines against you. Dont think its a positive thing for the league. I'm pretty sure you mean Norwood since There wasn't a Norwich in the league and everyone beat up on them not just that one line they won 2 games that year allowing 214 goals against. compared to Dundas with 78 GA and Brantford and Whitby with 80 GA
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