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Post by Sask on May 2, 2014 11:58:05 GMT -5
thats good news.. The only reason I put that on here is cause I heard they weren't going from some of there players, maybe those guys are out and new guys are coming in
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Post by Sask on May 2, 2014 11:59:59 GMT -5
probally 3 again.. Hope Lloyd gets some better players this year tho.. Last couple years they haven't been AAA caliber
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Post by mlh01 on May 2, 2014 13:39:27 GMT -5
Thanks. It's too bad more teams don't (or cant) declare AAA. I do try to follow Senior hockey right across the country and am always amazed at how many Senior teams that Saskatchewan has.
And correct me if I'm wrong but in both your major leagues a AA team won the championship (Unity in one league and the Kyle Elks in the other).
Is it simply economics that prevent them going to AAA?
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Post by Sask on May 2, 2014 13:55:00 GMT -5
im not sure why more teams don't go AAA it probally is money/sponsor related.. You are right about Kyle beating rosetown in there league final and unity beat Lloyd out too, shellbrook also lost in there league playoffs.. None of AAA teams in Sask are good enough to play AAA without APs
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Post by Western Guy on May 2, 2014 19:08:06 GMT -5
im not sure why more teams don't go AAA it probally is money/sponsor related.. You are right about Kyle beating rosetown in there league final and unity beat Lloyd out too, shellbrook also lost in there league playoffs.. None of AAA teams in Sask are good enough to play AAA without APs
Yes I'm sure that may be true but "as stated before" the Sask AAA teams want it both ways. They want to play by AA rules, then compete for a AAA standing. Just a couple of more wrinkles and we can call them Nfld. Sorry but I just can't feel sorry for any team wanting it both ways. If you're going to build a AAA team, build it. If that means at the end you can't play for a AA Championship - so be it. But for heaven sake to make excuses about why you're stuck where you're stuck at.
Saskatchewan and the Sask Hockey people do not and have never truly represented Senior AAA Hockey as all their "Provincial Special Senior Rules" are about making teams equal and keeping local talent playing locally. Not exactly a good description for AAA status.
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Post by Sask on May 2, 2014 20:39:57 GMT -5
western guy- in Sask if you go AAA you can't play for any other prov title.
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Post by Rudsy on May 3, 2014 8:13:09 GMT -5
Rosetown is building a AAA team of its own. Who wants to play on the local team can but a lot of the new players coming in and there will be a lot more coming will be on the AAA team only this year. Things are getting exciting. So the local team can have all the players and spots for their local kids. It's not fair to other teams and towns around to build a AAA foundation and compete in the league anymore. There are returning players from Prev years with families that are coming back and excited and players from the south as well. And maybe even a couple of ex NHL players.
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Post by crik on May 8, 2014 22:17:15 GMT -5
I have followed with interest the discussion on AP'S and the route to the Cup. I think NFLD and SK are very similar in that if the AAA players all combined in a few select cities for a full season it would have a huge impact on the remaining SR hockey in those provinces. One thing to remember about SK AAA teams, the players are playing in multiple playdowns at the same time; own club league playoffs, provincial playdowns and AAA playdowns. Maybe we should reward the ALTA champions and the ACH champs with automatic berths in the Allan Cup, this leaves BC to play SK; and MAN vs North Ontario; and then NFLD vs Que??? Just a thought, love the discussion.
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Post by S on May 8, 2014 22:36:25 GMT -5
alberta and Manitoba use AP's too.. Bentely in the last couple years have chose not to use APs but everyone else in the chinook league use APs and would bring them to the Allan cup.. Sept is an all star team they don't have to play anyone to get out of Manitoba and only had to win 3 games to get to the Allan cup
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Post by jimc on May 9, 2014 8:39:03 GMT -5
Nfld didn't have to lay a single game this year...they declared to compete for the AC a year ago...as the runner-up,, even, because the CeeBee's didn't even want to bother...and HALF their roster consisted of guys NOT carded to their team for the 2013-14 season.
That ONLY happens in ONE province, sorry.
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Post by dexterbaggs@hotmail.com on May 9, 2014 10:22:54 GMT -5
yes there has to be something done about it all .I say boycott the allan cup
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Post by thehawk7 on May 9, 2014 14:14:53 GMT -5
In Saskatchewan it's not as simple as putting a AAA team together. Most leagues have import rules in place so that certain teams can't just load up.lots of leagues have 3 imports. If you play with the team for 3 straight years then you aren't considered an import anymore. It takes a few years to build a competitive team if you are starting without a solid base. It makes it more competitive in most leagues instead of having an all star winning by 15 every night. Most cases imports are anyone that played junior A or higher and you can even be an import if you are outside of a certain radius from the town you will be playing in. There's distance restrictions and population requirements as well to take into consideration. Another thing with Sask provincials is that you have to have your full roster in by December 31. That's it. That's your deadline. A few years ago Bentley added Bakala, Kinch, Colliton, and Hunter well after that date but before their deadline. I think there should be a canada wide deadline that teams need to adhere to. Just my two cents
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Post by thehawk7 on May 9, 2014 14:15:29 GMT -5
In Saskatchewan it's not as simple as putting a AAA team together. Most leagues have import rules in place so that certain teams can't just load up.lots of leagues have 3 imports. If you play with the team for 3 straight years then you aren't considered an import anymore. It takes a few years to build a competitive team if you are starting without a solid base. It makes it more competitive in most leagues instead of having an all star winning by 15 every night. Most cases imports are anyone that played junior A or higher and you can even be an import if you are outside of a certain radius from the town you will be playing in. There's distance restrictions and population requirements as well to take into consideration. Another thing with Sask provincials is that you have to have your full roster in by December 31. That's it. That's your deadline. A few years ago Bentley added Bakala, Kinch, Colliton, and Hunter well after that date but before their deadline. I think there should be a canada wide deadline that teams need to adhere to. Just my two cents
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Post by dexterbaggs@hotmail.com on May 9, 2014 14:36:30 GMT -5
In Newfoundland some teams are allowed to have 2 imports while another is allowed to have 5 not on even ground at all here. We then have to pick from a draft each year so that all teams are playing on an even keel ..One team can`t load up for the Allan cup at the start of the regular season ,therefor a team from NL with its small population compared to the other provinces can`t compete with them unless they pick up players from the other NL teams A place with 6ooo compared with a team that has a population of 30 ,40 or even 500 thousand , yah that is fair
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Post by Don Robertson on May 9, 2014 15:50:20 GMT -5
In Newfoundland some teams are allowed to have 2 imports while another is allowed to have 5 not on even ground at all here. We then have to pick from a draft each year so that all teams are playing on an even keel ..One team can`t load up for the Allan cup at the start of the regular season ,therefor a team from NL with its small population compared to the other provinces can`t compete with them unless they pick up players from the other NL teams A place with 6ooo compared with a team that has a population of 30 ,40 or even 500 thousand , yah that is fair I agree some area like NL should be permitted to use AP players to bolster their lineup but not to the extent it transformes their team, this year they had about 9 per game that's 1/2 your line-up so injuries will never be an issue nor how many guys can come. I would think a fair number would be no more than 3 in the line-up in any given game. Again there where 3 teams in Dundas who never had to win a game to be at the tournament and ANother who only had to win 3 . So there is lot's to fix to make Sr AAA better across the country . Don Robertson
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