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Post by munzie on Jan 17, 2012 11:01:23 GMT -5
So, for the 'maybe' new Cambridge team possible location, are we not still talking Olympic size ice in Hespler, or has that story now faded?
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Post by cambridgehornets on Jan 17, 2012 16:00:00 GMT -5
munzie there will be a press conference in Feb. to announce the return of the Hornets.It will also tell you that the team will be playing home games on Sunday nights at 7pm at the Hespler arena.
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Post by tigerbob2 on Jan 17, 2012 16:16:36 GMT -5
Have I missed something here, the Hespeler Arena? Is there a new Hespeler Arena in Hespeler? When I left Cambridge the old Arena wouldn't seat very many, not enough for Sr. AAA hockey, if my memory serves me correctly.
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Post by Don Robertson on Jan 17, 2012 18:30:05 GMT -5
I think you're wrong about everyone being a free agent at the end of the season, unless this is new. Maybe someone in the know can shed some light on this... Your right drm1, teams hold the rights to a player until January 10 of the following season. A player would have to wait to sign with another club if he chose not to sign with the team he played with prior to. He could also ask for a release which the team may grant or the team may ask for compensation before releasing the player. The team that owns the rights also can "waste' a card at the january deadline by submitting that players card so that player cant go anywhere, but for just that year. After the season is done that player would be a free agent. I cant see any team holding players back after working so hard at getting more teams to join the league. Curtis as always is correct, well done. Hope to have news regarding Cambridge soon, these things take time and there is lots to do. Lets hope it works out Cheer Don Robertson
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Post by munzie on Jan 17, 2012 21:10:09 GMT -5
Have I missed something here, the Hespeler Arena? Is there a new Hespeler Arena in Hespeler? When I left Cambridge the old Arena wouldn't seat very many, not enough for Sr. AAA hockey, if my memory serves me correctly. Hey tigerbob, when you left Cambridge, Hespler probably still had wool mills ;D I know you have been looking in and it's great to have you posting again! Re: Hespeler.....I think I sent you a message by sled a while back. Maybe the dogs ate the musher somewhere along the trip up north. Anyway, yes they now have a new complex in Hespeler. I have not had the pleasure so far but it contains two Olympic size sheets of ice and I believe both rinks hold about 600 or 700 people each. Don't know if that includes standing room or not. I also understand that one of the the pads is at least sometimes used as a speed skating oval. Hope this is useful and don't worry, you haven't missed much, other than people running around like chickens and getting frustrated with the driver in front!
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Post by naitch on Jan 19, 2012 8:42:16 GMT -5
This is great if your fan of Senior Hockey & live in this area. 3 teams all located within 40 kms or less of each other. Am i correct to say that this is the only place in Canada with 3 AAA teams so close to each other? I think the league has been missing something since the Hornets & Squires left...some of those games were good to watch.
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Post by munzie on Jan 19, 2012 12:53:15 GMT -5
This is great if your fan of Senior Hockey & live in this area. 3 teams all located within 40 kms or less of each other. Am i correct to say that this is the only place in Canada with 3 AAA teams so close to each other? I think the league has been missing something since the Hornets & Squires left...some of those games were good to watch. Naitch. your certainly right as a fan, and of course the close proximity and rivalry's draws fans to each others rinks. Less overall travel for some players too. I think you could be technically correct on the closest AAA three team proximity. In the Chinook League out in Wade country, it would be about the same with Sylvian Lake, Innisfail, and Bentley (when Bentley plays in Red Deer). But if you put Bentley at home then the triangle gets a little bigger.
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Post by wade on Jan 19, 2012 22:44:19 GMT -5
This is great if your fan of Senior Hockey & live in this area. 3 teams all located within 40 kms or less of each other. Am i correct to say that this is the only place in Canada with 3 AAA teams so close to each other? I think the league has been missing something since the Hornets & Squires left...some of those games were good to watch. Naitch. your certainly right as a fan, and of course the close proximity and rivalry's draws fans to each others rinks. Less overall travel for some players too. I think you could be technically correct on the closest AAA three team proximity. In the Chinook League out in Wade country, it would be about the same with Sylvian Lake, Innisfail, and Bentley (when Bentley plays in Red Deer). But if you put Bentley at home then the triangle gets a little bigger. munzie, Innisfail has not registered at the 'AAA' level since 2008. They still compete in the CHL...but...as a SR 'AA' tier only. So, we are one corner short of a triangle and I would hazzard to guess it will remain this way.
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Post by munzie on Jan 20, 2012 0:01:51 GMT -5
Naitch. your certainly right as a fan, and of course the close proximity and rivalry's draws fans to each others rinks. Less overall travel for some players too. I think you could be technically correct on the closest AAA three team proximity. In the Chinook League out in Wade country, it would be about the same with Sylvian Lake, Innisfail, and Bentley (when Bentley plays in Red Deer). But if you put Bentley at home then the triangle gets a little bigger. munzie, Innisfail has not registered at the 'AAA' level since 2008. They still compete in the CHL...but...as a SR 'AA' tier only. So, we are one corner short of a triangle and I would hazzard to guess it will remain this way. Thanks Wade, for pointing that out. I had completely forgotten about that fact. While we're at it, perhaps you would be good enough to verify the answer to this 'hypothetical' question. Assuming that AA Innisfail is allowed to participate in the AAA CHL playoffs and if they were to win the league playoffs, does their name go on the league championship trophy? And additionally, in the case of Innisfail, would that be season finished for them or is there any other place where they would play onwards for some other trophy. Thanks, Munzie
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Post by wade on Jan 20, 2012 0:28:10 GMT -5
munzie, Innisfail has not registered at the 'AAA' level since 2008. They still compete in the CHL...but...as a SR 'AA' tier only. So, we are one corner short of a triangle and I would hazzard to guess it will remain this way. Thanks Wade, for pointing that out. I had completely forgotten about that fact. While we're at it, perhaps you would be good enough to verify the answer to this 'hypothetical' question. Assuming that AA Innisfail is allowed to participate in the AAA CHL playoffs and if they were to win the league playoffs, does their name go on the league championship trophy? And additionally, in the case of Innisfail, would that be season finished for them or is there any other place where they would play onwards for some other trophy. Thanks, Munzie There are separate league & provincial playoffs. As has been the case for a few years now, the Chinook League playoffs will run prior to all provincial playoffs. Hypothetically...if Innisfail were to win league playoffs...they would be awarded the Chinook League Championship. However, they have only one win all season and therefore won't even qualify for league playoffs. But... I assume Innisfail & Carstairs will playoff to decide who will represent the Chinook League in Alberta Sr 'AA' Provincials. As is the case in Sr. 'AAA' this series will be seperate from all league playoffs. I could be wrong on that...Im just going by past years where the CHL had more than one Sr. 'AA' team.
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Post by hockeypops on Jan 21, 2012 5:15:51 GMT -5
Thanks Wade, for pointing that out. I had completely forgotten about that fact. While we're at it, perhaps you would be good enough to verify the answer to this 'hypothetical' question. Assuming that AA Innisfail is allowed to participate in the AAA CHL playoffs and if they were to win the league playoffs, does their name go on the league championship trophy? And additionally, in the case of Innisfail, would that be season finished for them or is there any other place where they would play onwards for some other trophy. Thanks, Munzie There are separate league & provincial playoffs. As has been the case for a few years now, the Chinook League playoffs will run prior to all provincial playoffs. Hypothetically...if Innisfail were to win league playoffs...they would be awarded the Chinook League Championship. However, they have only one win all season and therefore won't even qualify for league playoffs. But... I assume Innisfail & Carstairs will playoff to decide who will represent the Chinook League in Alberta Sr 'AA' Provincials. As is the case in Sr. 'AAA' this series will be seperate from all league playoffs. I could be wrong on that...Im just going by past years where the CHL had more than one Sr. 'AA' team. Wade you are correct with one slight wrinkle. The Chinook league has always had a Presidents Cup that the two bottom teams have had a chance to play for. This is followed by a playoff for the two AA teams to determine a team to go to the Provincial AA Championship. The old Rocky Rams and Innisfail usually played for the Presidents Cup then played another series for the Provincial representation. Last year Lloyd refused to play the Presidents Cup as the travel costs would be substantial and Innisfail was on the same band wagon. I am not sure that the Presidents Cup was always about the Cup because it kept the teams active through February and into March. Because the season needs to end by Jan 30 each year the AA team or teams have no one to play and Provincial Championships are played in the last weekend of March so it's a long time in between active games. That is the drawback of being in the Chinook League as a AA team.
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Post by jimc on Jan 21, 2012 11:04:31 GMT -5
Hwypig...did not know that about concessions...then the city would have no reason at all to grant preferential ice time to a Sr team...that, IMO, would work against a Sr team, as they have no 'seniority' as it were, in terms of claims on ice time.
Bill, if they are not plying at Shade St, then it is a travesty and a joke...no other pad in the city makes any kind of sense for that rand of hockey. Hornets playing in Preston back in 1999 was horrific.
And as far as I remember, players are NOT free agents at the end of each year...their old teams own their rights until they either release them or do not re-sign them past Jan of the following year, IIRC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 14:06:22 GMT -5
JIM C , ? what year were the new hespler rinks built
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Post by tigerbob2 on Jan 23, 2012 13:30:39 GMT -5
C'mon you guys, Hespeler is spelled thusly. ;D Thanks for the update on the twin rinks in Hespeler, I still don't think that is large enough, seating wise I mean. If I remember correctly the Preston Arena seated 1000, but it was all on one side and that just did not have the atmosphere. IMO. Whatever follows will be interesting.
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Post by bdoucet on Feb 2, 2012 11:03:51 GMT -5
The one Hespeler pad was built 20 years ago and the other 10. The old one just got an overall because the cement pad buckled and put the ice on a slant lol Nice rink, seats all on one side though. Story to come later today.
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